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Amadeus

Yeah, I have mixed feelings abou Amadeus when I think about how grossly inaccurate its portrayal of Mozart was, but the story told by Salieri was terrific.


Ahh, finally someone names my No. 1!

2) Casablanca
3) Low Down Dirty Shame
4) Hero -- Dustin Hoffman
5) Almost anything w/Clint Eastwood: "Fistful of Dollars" "Line of Fire" "Good, Bad & the Ugly" "The Unforgiven" "Josie Wales"
6) A buncha old flicks: "King of Hearts" "They Might Be Giants" "Bringing Up Baby" "Arsenic and Old Lace"
7) A buncha romantic comedies: "One Fine Day," "French Kiss." "American President."
8) A few comic-derivatives: "Spiderman II" "X-Men"
9) True Lies
10) Almost any sword & sorcery flick, esp. "Scorpion King"

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Come on, the play/movie wasn't meant to be historical. It was historical fiction, and explicitley stated as such. And taken on its own merits, I think it's absolutely superb. And I don't think the portrayal of Salieri is cartoonishly villainous, either. He's a pretty sympathetic character.


Abram's portrayal of a tormented, jealous rival methodically destroying the object of his jealousy was perfect. He made the movie.

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Boy some of you have some really bad taste.

Here's some of my favorites not in order.

Empire Strikes Back
Fight Club
Shawshank Redemption
The Grifters
Titanic
Pirates of the Carribean
Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail
Cheech and Chong Nice Dreams
Pink Floyd The Wall
Star Wars


That enough.

Oh crap wait. There's also movies like

Forest Gump
Rainman

And **** like that that I like.

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Boy some of you have some really bad taste.

Titanic
Forest Gump


Talk about pwning yourself in your own post. Sheesh.

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Boy some of you have some really bad taste.

Here's some of my favorites not in order.

Empire Strikes Back
Fight Club
Shawshank Redemption
The Grifters
Titanic
Pirates of the Carribean
Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail
Cheech and Chong Nice Dreams
Pink Floyd The Wall
Star Wars


That enough.

Oh crap wait. There's also movies like

Forest Gump
Rainman

And **** like that that I like.


That isn't Cheech and Chong's best movie
And Fight Club? stupid
Titanic? overrated

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@ kid

only two black and white films in the whole lot

1. kiss me deadly
2. kind hearts and coronets
3. open your eyes (can't remember the spanish)
4. human traffic
5. the lady killers
6. the italian job
7. vertigo
8. blow
9. fistful of dollars, for a few dollars more, the good the bad and ugly (the whole trilogy is great )
10. from russia with love

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Mozart was infantile.

http://internetdump.com/users/coprologist/Mozart.html

That's part of his genius.




One can make a film about boredom or suicide without making the film itself boring or causing the audience to want to kill themselves.

Mozart may have been scatologically inclined (as on occasions were Oliver Cromwell, Erasmus and Martin Luther and James Joyce, the Marquis de Sade et al.,) but it doesn't mean I have to sit through a film that is itself ca ca doody.

As I said, I'd rather have heard Mozart's or Salieri's (no matter how tedious you feel his music to be) work than have sat through the film.

With regards to F. Murray Abraham's performance, I thought he perhaps had mistaken the film for an episode of 'The Perils of Pauline'- pity there weren't any railway tracks around.

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Just some thoughts , not a list

Ok - its been awhile, but Im inclined to put Godfather part 2 ahead of part 1. Both great though.

I cant really decide between Annie Hall, Manhattan, and Hannah and Her Sisters, but Woody dont deserve three slots.


Let me help you here. All were great, but Manhattan was the best.

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Lawrence of Arabia - ah.


When I was a kid I wondered why every movie wasn't as good as this one. I didn't know about talent and budgets yet.

quote:
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Kurosawa - yes - Seven Samurai, I suppose.


Tough call, but that's the one that I always enjoy the most.

quote:
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Apocalypse Now - something inside me rebells at the universal praise - it was good, but not THAT good.
edit - Dr. Strangelove better for Kubrick, I think.


I agree that Dr. Strangelove was a much better film for Kubrick. Of course that's an easy comparison as Apocalypse Now was done by Francis Ford Coppola.

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Dr. Zhivago.


A little dated perhaps, but a great film with a great score. Even as a kid I desperately wanted to have my way with Lara.

quote:
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The Seventh Seal, for Bergman, I think. Yes. Better than stuff about Swedish domestic life. Chess, anyone?


I prefer Wild Strawberries & The Virgin Spring personally.

Oh, and Diss, sorry but Fight Club rules.

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I prefer Wild Strawberries & The Virgin Spring personally.




Although I like those very much, 'Fanny and Alexander' is my favourite of his. It just seems to radiate humanity and warmth- not terms normally associated with Ingmar 'Cheery Chappy' Bergman.

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I just recently revised my list to 100, and choose to present it in rough chronological order - by decade, really. I'm sure you intelligent folks will have no trouble figuring out the decades.


The Thief Of Bagdad
The Gold Rush
Un Chien Andalou
The Passion of Joan of Arc
Battleship Potemkin
By The Law
Metropolis

Scarface: Shame of a Nation
I Am A Fugitive From The Chain Gang
Freaks
Duck Soup
A Night At the Opera
Grand Illusion
Bringing Up Baby
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
It Happened One Night

Rebecca
Citizen Kane
Casablanca
This Gun For Hire
Cat People
Double Indemnity
Lifeboat
Spellbound
Children of Paradise
It's A Wonderful Life
La Belle Et La Bete
The Bicyle Thief
The Third Man
Kind Hearts and Coronets
Gun Crazy

Sunset Boulevard
Singin' In The Rain
Umberto D
Roman Holiday
Rear Window
Seven Samurai
Paths of Glory
Vertigo
Touch of Evil
Sleeping Beauty
The 400 Blows

The Apartment
Shoot the Piano Player
Jules And Jim
High And Low
Umbrellas of Cherbourg
A Hard Day's Night
The Collector
A Shot In The Dark
Dr. Zhivago
Wait Until Dark
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
Rosemary's Baby
Yellow Submarine
2001: A Space Odyssey

Catch-22
The Godfather
Play It Again, Sam
Sleeper
Chinatown
Young Frankenstein
Rocky Horror Picture Show
Love and Death
Annie Hall
All That Jazz

Empire Strikes Back
TRON
Au Revoir, Les Enfants
Blade Runner
Brazil
After Hours
Jean De Florette
Blue Velvet
Labyrinth
Raising Arizona
The Thin Blue Line
Akira
Roger & Me
Kiki's Delivery Service
Heathers
The Killer

Delicatessen
Barton Fink
The Fisher King
Batman Returns
True Romance
Léon
The Hudsucker Proxy
12 Monkeys
Before Sunrise
Leaving Las Vegas
Life Is Beautiful
Perfect Blue

Crouching Tiger: Hidden Dragon
Amelie
Rin-Taro's Metropolis
Adaptation
Millennium Actress
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Consider them all recommendations.

My top ten itself:

1. Brazil (1985)
2. Vertigo (1958)
3. The Thief of Bagdad (1924)
4. Delicatessen (1991)
5. Gun Crazy (1949)
6. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
7. The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
8. Jules and Jim (1962)
9. Sleeping Beauty (1959)
10. By the Law (1926)

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1. Zmruz oczy (Squint Your Eyes)
2. Samotari (Loners)
2. Ghost In The Shell
2. Metropolis (the anime)
2. Blade Runner
2. The Crow
2. Daria (the MTV series)
2. Chasing Amy
2. The City of Lost Children
2. Alaska.de

For starters.

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Titanic? overrated


I almost cry everytime, and I already know what happens. It makes me feel like a little girl. Not that I like that or anything, but it's a good movie.

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I almost cry everytime, and I already know what happens. It makes me feel like a little girl.


as well it might.

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I don't understand what is so good about Fight club. Maybe I need to watch it again. It seems like I'm the only person who doesn't like this film.

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i think it's a reasonably good film, but not nearly as 'clever' as people seem to think.

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One can make a film about boredom or suicide without making the film itself boring or causing the audience to want to kill themselves.


And yet it was universally lauded by critics, was a huge box office hit, won eight Academy Awards including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor (Abrams)? Not to mention a slew of other awards from around the world. It was the most critically acclaimed film of its year.

So don't make such generalizations about reactions to the film. The overwhelming consensus is that the film is a masterpiece.

quote:

With regards to F. Murray Abraham's performance, I thought he perhaps had mistaken the film for an episode of 'The Perils of Pauline'- pity there weren't any railway tracks around.


And what was so bad about his performance? There was nothing cartoonish or over-the-top about it. On the contrary, he played the part superbly. I'd say winning best actor at the Academy Awards and Golden Globes belies any notion that he did a bad job.

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As a member of managment, this was a really funny realistic movie...

the character in the movie who was hyptnotised was also in Band of Brothers

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Although I like those very much, 'Fanny and Alexander' is my favourite of his. It just seems to radiate humanity and warmth- not terms normally associated with Ingmar 'Cheery Chappy' Bergman.


I haven't seen Fanny & Alexander, but I've added it to my list of films to rent. I liked Wild Strawberries for its humanity, particularly as it is portrayed through the eyes and actions of Liv Ullman's character. Her sudden and strong reaction to the fighting married couple in the presence of the children / teenagers in the car was particularly touching. I also enjoyed the flashbacks as the old man revisits his life on the way to Stockholm, both for their inherent poignancy and their general Bergman wierdness.

Virgin Spring was the first Bergman film I ever saw, and it completely captivated me. It was so simple and clean. It's plot is mythic, but its emotional texture was completely personal. Each aspect made the film much more powerful than I would have assumed it could have been from a synopsis of the plot.

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In no particular order:

Apocalype Now (Redux)
Blade Runner
Full Metal Jacket
Seven Samurai (also some of his other films)
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Burning in Mississippi
My Neighbour Totoro (stand in for Miyazaki's animated films)
An Autumn Fairy Tale (Hong Kong)
The Crying Game
Accidental Hero

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13. Siu Lam Juk Kau (Shaolin Soccer) (2001, Hong Kong)


You must be jest - same with some other guy who thinks Kung Fu Hustle is great...

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I don't understand what is so good about Fight club. Maybe I need to watch it again. It seems like I'm the only person who doesn't like this film.


It works on a number of levels, some of which won't affect or appeal to some people.

Firstly, it is a psycho-comedy and IMO a good one. I think most people are surprised by the late film revelation, and many who aren't still think that the film works despite this.

Secondly, it is hilarious social commentary on many levels / topics. Psychobabble, anarchism, militia groups, authority figures, consumerism, manhood etc. are given a jaundiced look through the eyes of the various characters as well as the camera. Some of the viewpoints are serious or semi-serious, but all are humorous or potentially so depending on the types of humor you appreciate.

Some of the humor I think is more effective with certain generations, and indeed with certain sorts of people from certain generations. My male friends and I all immediately recognized Marla as someone we had all slept with at one time or another, and for the more disturbed amongst us she isn't far off from a number of women we had longer term relationships (to the extent such a thing is possible with someone like her) with. I would even go so far as to say that the more experience you have with mental illness,
the more cynical you are and the closer you are to "the abandoned generation" (born 1961-1981) the more you will relate to this film.

Oh, and the writing, acting, direction and visual effects are all top notch.

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And yet it was universally lauded by critics, was a huge box office hit, won eight Academy Awards including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor (Abrams)? Not to mention a slew of other awards from around the world. It was the most critically acclaimed film of its year.






Remind me- how many awards did 'Titanic' win ?

My point as I thought I made clear, was I found the film infantile, and I found F Murray Abraham's performance pantomimish. How exactly am I generalizing about a particular film and a particular performance I said I didn't like ?

You were the one who raised Mozart's scatological leanings, implying that somehow this justified the infantilism I found in the film.

And yet I don't find a play dealing with boredom and dashed hopes boring or depressing- Beckett's 'En Attendant Godot'.

I certainly don't despise other people after reading Sartre's 'Huis Clos' either.

Plenty of people have won Golden Globes and Oscars and Baftas for reasons not having anything to do with a particular role or performance- as a quick look back through the awards lists will tell you.

How shocking that I should disagree with the critics.

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Burning in Mississippi


Do you mean Mississippi Burning?

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Burning in Mississippi


Do you mean Mississippi Burning?


No, Burning in Mississippi was the remake done from the southern perspective.

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No, Burning in Mississippi was the remake done from the southern perspective.



Missippi Masala is Burning - a tale of a brave FBI agent returning to the scene of his triumph over southern racist murderers, falling in love with the daughter of an Indian motel owner, and breaking up with her when it turns out that she is an incompetent cook.

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Missippi Masala is Burning - a tale of a brave FBI agent returning to the scene of his triumph over southern racist murderers, falling in love with the daughter of an Indian motel owner, and breaking up with her when it turns out that she is an incompetent cook.



'Showbloat' the story of a flatulent dock worker who earns his living by farting show tunes aboard a riverboat.

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"Forrest Gimp", the tale of a backward, slightly-retarded Alabama boy who took to running...

... all the way to LA, where he fell into the clutches of Zed and Maynard who put him in a leather suit and caged him in the basement of Maynard's pawn shop.

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