12-03-2005 02:53									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo This is called a logical fallacy...

If a cat kills someone it's more likely to go to the news than if a dog kills one. During my life I have heard about less kills by cats than I hear about kills by dogs in a year

If you can't see that it's a fact that dogs kills more people than cats...

quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo what an idiot..

Oh, my mistake, you were talking to yourself...

	12-03-2005 02:54									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio If a cat kills someone it's more likely to go to the news than if a dog kills one. During my life I have heard about less kills by cats than I hear about kills by dogs in a year If you can't see that it's a fact that dogs kills more people than cats... Oh, my mistake, you were talking to yourself...

You are committing more logical fallacies (and I'm not going to take your word for anything because you are not credible).

*******.

	12-03-2005 02:56									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo I bet more people die from getting struck by lighting each year

So? We're talking about what's more dangerous... a cat or a dog

quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo If you want to talk about cats all the time, fine

You started it by throwing out a lie without trying to back it up

	12-03-2005 02:56									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo I hate people like you boris, who try to give dogs as a whole a bad image, when it is not the case.

Except that's not what I'm doing, since I explicitley stated that 1) I like dogs, and 2) you can't generalize about dogs (or cats or any other animal) that they are "bad." You're just too clueless to actually read and comprehend the argument.

quote: There are some feral and stray dogs out there that do bite people.. and also bad owners who abuse their animals and make them into attack dogs.... that does not speak for dogs as a whole.

I never said they spoke for dogs as a whole--quite the opposite, I stated they do not. But when it comes to a claim that cats are "just as dangerous" as dogs, such a claim is easily refuted by abundant evidence to the contrary (not to mention simple common sense).

My point is not to demonize dogs (which I like), but to defend cats from demonization.

quote: Overgeneralization: http://dictionary.reference.com/sea...rgeneralization

Did you even read that? No, of course you didn't...then you would have realized it had NOTHING to do with the way you used that "word." "Generalization" was the word you wanted, without any unneccessary modifiers (and it would still have been a completely inaccurate portrayal of what I said).

	12-03-2005 02:57									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo You are committing more logical fallacies (and I'm not going to take your word for anything because you are not credible).

Then prove me wrong..!

	12-03-2005 02:58									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio You started it by throwing out a lie without trying to back it up

excuse me fool, you are the one throwing **** out there.

Boris:

quote: My point is not to demonize dogs (which I like), but to defend cats from demonization.

You are doing the exact opposite in this case.. you are demonizing dogs very abundantly.

quote: Did you even read that? No, of course you didn't...then you would have realized it had NOTHING to do with the way you used that "word." "Generalization" was the word you wanted, without any unneccessary modifiers (and it would still have been a completely inaccurate portrayal of what I said).

Actually it is not invalid to say overgeneralization, if you were to read the last paragraph. Generalization was not the word I wanted. So **** you.

	12-03-2005 03:01									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo I bet more people die from getting struck by lighting each year.

And this is relevant...how? Once again, you have a failure of comprehension. This isn't about dogs being deadlier than car accidents, lightning strikes, heart attacks, snowmobiles, yellow fever, etc. It's about dogs being deadlier than cats.

Since you have failed to provide any evidence supporting your ludicrous assertion that cats are "just as dangerous" as dogs, I can only conclude you once again are cluelessly BAMing.

quote: You are an idiot, boris. I'm sorry I'm just and ****ing tired of your B.S. If you want to talk about cats all the time, fine. But I want a pet that is more active and energetic.. and that actually has some ****ing intelligence.

Ad hominems are unbecoming, dear Pedro.

People like dogs and cats for different reasons, it's true. But it must KILL you that cats are now more popular as pets in the U.S. than dogs.

	12-03-2005 03:03									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo excuse me fool, you are the one throwing **** out there.

And what do you call this:

quote: Cats are just as dangerous as dogs as proven with the article that was posted by Wezil

One article doesn't prove anything

	12-03-2005 03:04									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov And this is relevant...how? Once again, you have a failure of comprehension. This isn't about dogs being deadlier than car accidents, lightning strikes, heart attacks, snowmobiles, yellow fever, etc. It's about dogs being deadlier than cats.

Once again you have a failure in brain functions...

quote: Since you have failed to provide any evidence supporting your ludicrous assertion that cats are "just as dangerous" as dogs, I can only conclude you once again are cluelessly BAMing.

**** you.

quote: But it must KILL you that cats are now more popular as pets in the U.S. than dogs.

No they aren't.

	12-03-2005 03:07									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo You are doing the exact opposite in this case.. you are demonizing dogs very abundantly.

How is providing factual statistics "demonizing" anything, especially when I state over and over that I ****ING LIKE DOGS? I was only defending cats from people's stupid claims that they are "evil." Animals aren't "evil," anyways.

I'm still waiting for a shred of evidence from you to support your claims. Go on, I've provided facts. What have you got? Nothing, as usual, since you're just the same BAM man you've been all along. Man, too bad you've never followed through on your promises to change.

quote: Actually it is not invalid to say overgeneralization, if you were to read the last paragraph. Generalization was not the word I wanted. So **** you.

Oh lord. Please read that article again. Isn't English your first language? So I don't understand the problem. The entire article pointed out that the meaning of the word wasn't what you were using it as.

	12-03-2005 03:10									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov How is providing factual statistics "demonizing" anything, especially when I state over and over that I ****ING LIKE DOGS? I was only defending cats from people's stupid claims that they are "evil." Animals aren't "evil," anyways. I'm still waiting for a shred of evidence from you to support your claims. Go on, I've provided facts. What have you got? Nothing, as usual, since you're just the same BAM man you've been all along. Man, too bad you've never followed through on your promises to change.

And the bullshit continues from Boris... I think cats are evil and I do not like them. Anyways, you have not provided facts. You are a dumb bammer. I actually provided facts showing what the most intelligent breed was. If you can't speak with any intelligence what-so-ever I'm going to continue on with some other things... followed through on promises to change? You guys are idiots and you attack me on everything, so why should I change? You make the conditions prohibitive in doing so.

quote: Oh lord. Please read that article again. Isn't English your first language? So I don't understand the problem. The entire article pointed out that the meaning of the word wasn't what you were using it as.

You again are ****ing up. Read the article yourself.

	12-03-2005 03:11									#132
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Anyways, enough of that.. I'm thinking of also the Doberman pinscher breed... since I need a dog that would be willing to protect the owner..

	12-03-2005 03:14									#133
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Once again you have a failure in brain functions...

And this is an argument...how?

quote: **** you.

Are you 12?

quote: No they aren't.

"It 2003-2004 National Pet Owners Survey found that the number of households with pets has increased by more than 10 million since 1992 and that 62% of U.S. households contain at least one pet. That's 64.2 million households (up 20% over 10 years ago) inhabited by 77.7 million cats, 65 million dogs, 16.8 million small animals, 17.3 million birds, 8.8 million reptiles, 7 million saltwater fish, and 185 million freshwater fish."

That's two outright lies you've been caught in so far. Care to make it a hat trick?

	12-03-2005 03:15									#134
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Hey Boris, you want to post a link to that? And as far as I'm concerned, dogs are much larger animals. Again I'm trying to move the thread away from your ****ing insanity, and onto common sense.

	12-03-2005 03:15									#135
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I have to admit that,That article didnt really prove a thing. The lady already had an open wound that got scratched by her cat. The wound more than likely would have bled out if her dog sratched her.

	12-03-2005 03:19									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo And the bullshit continues from Boris... I think cats are evil and I do not like them.

You don't have to like them, but I love how you "overgeneralize" ( ) cats as "evil" and then get your panties in a twist when you (incorrectly) think I'm saying the same thing about dogs. Doesn't that make you a hypocrite? Why, yes it does!

quote: Anyways, you have not provided facts. You are a dumb bammer.

Um, I provided a whole post full of statistics. You really do have reading comprehension problems!

quote: I actually provided facts showing what the most intelligent breed was.

How on earth was this relevant to anything we were arguing about?

quote: followed through on promises to change? You guys are idiots and you attack me on everything, so why should I change? You make the conditions prohibitive in doing so.

In one fell swoop, Fez admits he is acting like a royal ******* and then denies any responsibility for it by claiming it's the fault of everyone else. Priceless!

quote: You again are ****ing up. Read the article yourself.

I did, and it's clearly referring to "overgeneralization" as hackers being "creative" with words in their jargon. It had nothing to do with how you used it!

Wow, this is the most entertaining 'poly thread in months!

	12-03-2005 03:20									#137
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Anyways, enough of that.. I'm thinking of also the Doberman pinscher breed... since I need a dog that would be willing to protect the owner..

Good choice. Only 3% of fatal dog attacks are by Pinschers.

	12-03-2005 03:22									#138
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov In one fell swoop, Fez admits he is acting like a royal ******* and then denies any responsibility for it by claiming it's the fault of everyone else. Priceless!

You people have made conditions so prohibitively terrible I can't change any defensiveness I may have. And you morons also persist on using the word "fez".

IW, and your point is? Pinschers are loyal, intelligent and defensive dogs. They will only attack if their owner is in trouble (they are very easy to train to be like that).

	12-03-2005 03:25									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Hey Boris, you want to post a link to that?

http://www.sequoiahumane.com/articl...popular-pet.htm

"The American Pet Products Manufacturers Association, the leading U.S. not-for-profit pet industry organization, conducts comprehensive research examining demographics, buying habits and other traits of U.S. guardians of dogs, cats, fish, birds, reptiles, and small animals."

I find it funny you demanded a link, since you've not even provided any statistics as of yet for your wild claims, not to mention links. But I am happy to oblige.

quote: And as far as I'm concerned, dogs are much larger animals.

I wouldn't argue that, and so what?

quote: Again I'm trying to move the thread away from your ****ing insanity, and onto common sense.

I see. You mean your "common sense" assertion that cats are "just as dangerous" as dogs, when you admit that dogs are much larger and there are tons of cited examples of dog attacks, and yet no comparable statistics for cats? Yes, such common sense!

	12-03-2005 03:26									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I wouldn't argue that, and so what?

I don't count cats as much of a pet... as I do with a dog.

quote: I see. You mean your "common sense" assertion that cats are "just as dangerous" as dogs, when you admit that dogs are much larger and there are tons of cited examples of dog attacks, and yet no comparable statistics for cats? Yes, such common sense!

Again the ******* speaks again!

	12-03-2005 03:36									#141
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quote: I don't count cats as much of a pet...

	12-03-2005 03:37									#142
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo I don't count cats as much of a pet... as I do with a dog.

Huh? What does this have to do with the fact that pet cats outnumber pet dogs in the U.S. by 13 million?

If cats were so "evil," why are they so popular?

quote: Again the ******* speaks again!

Another brilliant riposte, sirrah!

	12-03-2005 03:40									#143
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Huh? What does this have to do with the fact that pet cats outnumber pet dogs in the U.S. by 13 million? If cats were so "evil," why are they so popular?

I've seen people with dozens upon dozens of cats.. I call them cat people. A lot of those millions are on the part of hippies like these. There is this house in my neighborhood and animal control officers showed up because the lady had something like 80 cats... dogs are more popular by themselves.

	12-03-2005 03:43									#144
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo You people have made conditions so prohibitively terrible I can't change any defensiveness I may have. And you morons also persist on using the word "fez".

OH MY GOD, is this the most priceless statement ever or what?

So if conditions here are "prohibitively terrible," why on earth do you keep posting here? Are you a masochist? Does someone make you stay here and post in such a "prohibitively terrible" environment?

I thought Republicans were all about personal responsibility for one's behavior. Yet here you are claiming everyone else is to blame for your behavior except you!

	12-03-2005 03:45									#145
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silly fez

	12-03-2005 03:45									#146
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I can't believe that this thread, of all possible threads, got fezzed.

	12-03-2005 03:52									#147
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I can't believe that this thread, of all possible threads, got fezzed.

In his own way, the boy is an artist. It's amazing.

	12-03-2005 04:00									#148
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quote: Originally posted by Sava silly fez

Since I am a little dense at times what the hell is a fez? Since yall are off topic I thought id ask
Not that it mattersthat you are just courious.

	12-03-2005 04:01									#149
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Sorry everyone. I have no further comments on this. There is no such thing as fez. My name is Giancarlo. Thanks.

	12-03-2005 04:03									#150
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IIRC Giancarlo's old nick was Fez

Last edited by Adagio on 12-03-2005 at 04:08