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Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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Az, I can see you disappointed with Kitty's sexist comments, but don't tell me you too fell to Aggie's trolls

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Nah, I am not offended, or something. I just think it's stupid.

Aggie is one of those crazy people in humanities academia who hate their own ethnicity. Probably thinks he's Maori, and **** (think Ward Churchill)

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Keep your head down Imran


The potential for oral sex jokes is endless

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CNN reports that Nichols is now in custody. Thank God it's over!

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She shouldn't of had a gun and he should have been cuffed, Georgia should change their law.


They were about to put the cuffs on when he pulled the stunt (he was changing from jail clothes to street clothes).

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Nah, I am not offended, or something. I just think it's stupid.




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Aggie is one of those crazy people in humanities academia who hate their own ethnicity. Probably thinks he's Maori, and **** (think Ward Churchill)


I resent that. I hate everyone equally.

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Glad they have him in custody, hopefully nobody was killed in the process. I expected him to try go down in a blaze of glory.

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CNN reports that Nichols is now in custody. Thank God it's over!


Poor CNN. Now they'll have to go back to Michael Jackson 24/7.

Well, at least they got the guy. Let the baying for blood begin.

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Glad they have him in custody, hopefully nobody was killed in the process. I expected him to try go down in a blaze of glory.


Apparently when he was surrounded, he surrended peacefully. Though he'll go down soon enough. There is no chance he avoids the death penalty. Couldn't think of a better person to give it to.

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Glad he's caught. Would not have liked to be in Atlanta these past few days, not that I would on a regular basis

Sympathy to the victims' families.


I must say, from a distant perspective, what he nearly pulled off is fascinating. Had he done this 75 years ago, there would be songs about him today.

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They were about to put the cuffs on when he pulled the stunt (he was changing from jail clothes to street clothes).
There must be some conflicting info going around because according to the info I've seen convicts aren't allowed to be cuffed.

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Who wants to take bets that he'll be released to play for the Falcons?

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There must be some conflicting info going around because according to the info I've seen convicts aren't allowed to be cuffed.


They are for transport. Just not in front of the jury. What they were going to do is cuff him until he got to the courtroom and then take off the cuffs before the jury came in.

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I don't think it would be necessary to have cages in the courtroom, like they do in some countries.

Why do they arm court guards though? There seems to be no good reason for it. Surely a sturdy truncheon would suffice.

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Cause guns are a better deterrant than truncheons, and have had to be used a few times.

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Cause guns are a better deterrant than truncheons, and have had to be used a few times.


Non lethal force would be better. Less chance of the guards dying that way.

I guess that coming from a country where the police aren't armed changes one's view.

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Good to see he's off the streets

This guy has come around a bit too late to make a legend for himself IMO, even with his brief escape and death count (what is it? three? four?). In twenty years he'll be remembered by the victims' famalies and some hard core crime fanatics but not much more. Our memories are just too short and he has too much "competition" to attain the heights of a Jesse James or Bonnie and Clyde.

As for his escape, didn't Ted Bundy escape from custody in Colrado (when he was on trial for murder) and avoid capture for at least a couple months' (instead of little more then a day) before the Florida police caught him. So yes, his escape could be considered impressive but is not enough to make him a permanent celebrity IMO. Now if he escapes again.....

My sympathies to all the people this piece of dirt has hurt or killed.

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Apparently he killed a US Customs Agent that he carjacked.

That makes 4 dead so far (depending on the other deputy)

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yeah 4 people dead. The customs agent is believed to be killed by Nichols.

The woman who lost her gun is expected to live.

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What's weird is that this was his second trial on the rape charge. The first resulted in a hung jury.

Surely that's a good sign if you are a defendant. Why he went berzerk is beyond me.

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What's weird is that this was his second trial on the rape charge. The first resulted in a hung jury.

Surely that's a good sign if you are a defendant. Why he went berzerk is beyond me.


According to the ex-defense lawyer, the prosecutor was going very hard in the second trial.

ACK!

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I don't think his next trial will result in a hung jury. just a hunch.

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What's weird is that this was his second trial on the rape charge. The first resulted in a hung jury.
Mistrial, not a hung jury.

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Yeah, but the foreman for the first trial said a bunch of jurors said they was reasonable doubt in their heads.

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Mistrial, not a hung jury.


On what grounds?

I am a frequent Law and Order viewer, but I can't remember any of the grounds for a mistrial other than that one of the jurors falls in love with the defendant, or something like that.

What was it this time?

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Two bit criminal...fry him.

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Mistrial, not a hung jury.


From article:
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Nichols faced a possible life sentence if convicted in his retrial on charges of rape, sodomy, burglary, and false imprisonment, among others. His earlier trial was declared a mistrial on Monday when jurors voted 8-4 for acquittal.


Seems you are both right.

ACK!

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Yeah, it seems they got confused. It was a hung jury. From CNN.com (to suppor Tuberski's quote:

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I thought that if the jury can't come to a decision that it is harder to get another mistrial, since it's good reason to think that reasonable doubt has not been met.

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Oh well. The TV hasn't been making a real big deal about it (I'd have thought a hung jury would have gotten more play) and I thought it was for procedural errors.

* DinoDoc shrugs shoulders

 
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