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Agathon is offline Agathon
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Did he have any other criminal convictions?

This seems weird - why wouid a person who looks as if they may well get off, go bonkers like that.

Do you think he thought the current trial was being conducted unfairly, or that the jury had been stacked or something?

Seems odd.

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Or the opposite. The prosecution can learn from the first trial what missing facts the hold-out jurors need to know to switch their votes to guilty.

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Did he have any other criminal convictions?

This seems weird - why wouid a person who looks as if they may well get off, go bonkers like that.

Do you think he thought the current trial was being conducted unfairly, or that the jury had been stacked or something?

Seems odd.


why would a man rape a woman? He's obviously got issues.

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Or the opposite. The prosecution can learn from the first trial what missing facts the hold-out jurors need to know to switch their votes to guilty.


Isn't that getting close to double jeopardy?

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Of course not... since there was no ruling in the first case.

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Or the opposite. The prosecution can learn from the first trial what missing facts the hold-out jurors need to know to switch their votes to guilty.


Isn't that getting close to double jeopardy?


No as long as there is no decision, they can retry it.

I read way to many lawyer books......

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Of course not... since there was no ruling in the first case.


But quizzing the jury seems a bit too much like a second shot.

I favour letting anyone go if they can't get unanimity the first time.

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Of course not... since there was no ruling in the first case.


But quizzing the jury seems a bit too much like a second shot.

I favour letting anyone go if they can't get unanimity the first time.


Oh, of course, this guy was obviously innocent of all charges.

And tell celebrate he killed 3, maybe 4 people.

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Oh, of course, this guy was obviously innocent of all charges.


Who knows?

If the jury was 8 to 4 to acquit, then either he was innocent, the evidence was lousy, or the prosecutor was incompetent.

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A black man shoots a white judge, a cop, a court reporter, and a US immigration officer (two white men and two white woman) in Georgia. He is so going to be fried.

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He is so going to be fried.


I thought it was lethal injection in Georgia.

I guess this has given the Cable networks a weekend of newscrimeporn, though.

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It would really be a shame if he was innocent in the first case.

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"Had he done this 75 years ago, there would be songs about him today."

Forcible sodomy?? Black? Shot the innocuous court reporter? I can sorta understand shooting the judge, they're like military servicemen. The American south?

75 years ago people would've been coming from miles around to stand in line and spit on his grave.

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A black man shoots a white judge, a cop, a court reporter, and a US immigration officer (two white men and two white woman) in Georgia. He is so going to be fried.

You're making false assumptions. The cop was black, so it was at least one black person involved. You seem to be racializing it when its not necessary.

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He also seems to be acting as if a white man wouldn't be up for the death penalty in the same circumstances.

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But quizzing the jury seems a bit too much like a second shot.


What? Why? Are you assuming ever jury is exactly the same?

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what? are you guys bored of this story. The most interseting bit is now coming to light.

Take this you athiests!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005...ain679837.shtml

She saved her own life talking about god. Somehow I doubt talking about science would have the same effect.

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this is what affirmitive action gets ya:

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A video camera, which is supposed to be monitored by two guards in a command post, shows the muscular, 33-year-old Nichols knocking the petite, 51-year-old grandmother backward, and locking her in a cell.


as I've said, I have no problem with female guard. There are many women in this world who can kick guy's asses. I'm just saying phsyical size should have some basis. At a minimum, guards should weigh 180 pounds (including men) and be 5 feet 10 inches tall. This weight requirement would be subject to body fat percentages of course, we don't want any fatboys and girls as guards (but women could be allowed to have slightly higher body fat as they naturally have higher body fat) And they should meet minimum strength and agility tests (to be able to take down a prisoner) as well.

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That's all I've been saying.

There probably are a lot of women in this world who could have taken him down.

But only because they come from a population of 3 billion. I'd say that if you gave 1% of 25 year-old women an even chance of winning a wrestling match with this dude then you'd be fairly generous.

I'm not even that big a guy but I'd gladly take my chances against all but the top 5% of women in my age group.

 
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