13-03-2005 04:50									#1
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You really can buy all sorts of medical stuff over the counter these days. I take......a lot. I never thought it that strange, until earlier I was reading American Psycho and discovered my routines are scarily like his. At least in the pill popping sense.

So....what do you all take in the way of over-the counter type stuff? And do you think its wise? Am I doing long term damage? Am I just worrying over nothing?

My typical day involves:
multivitamins
codliver oil capsules
St John's Wort
'paracetamol plus' (for hangover)
co-dydramol (painkillers for recurrent back probs. Am perhaps a little addicted)
'pro-plus' at regular intervals to keep me awake
'sleep aid' (sleeping tablets, surprise surprise) for insomnia

(all in addition to anti-depressants and the occassional line of coke. well, occassional/frequent. depends)

I need opinions/advice. And you lot seem to be a fair cross-section of society, so...

	13-03-2005 04:53									#2
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Nothing. Seriously.. I almost never take pills. I think my intake is about 6 tylenol a year.

Frankly you seem like a drug fiend to me.

	13-03-2005 04:57									#3
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I am not a drug fiend.























I am a drug addict

	13-03-2005 04:58									#4
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well vitamines and drugs are different...

	13-03-2005 04:59									#5
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"fiend" sounds cooler. It gives the impression that you'll never be stopped.

Let me tell you about my caffeine intake - a lot.

Add to that the shakes I have from packing in fags last week.

	13-03-2005 05:02									#6
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i hate fags.

	13-03-2005 05:04									#7
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I occasionally have a few vitamens (Rarely, only if I feel I am missing something)

and am on daily medication for my high blood pressure

but very little otherwise...

Jon Miller

	13-03-2005 05:06									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia i hate fags.

I love them, but they're way too expensive now and I am getting shfated by the tax people this year among other things.

So that's the end of me smoking.

	13-03-2005 05:11									#9
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If it's not healthy, it's certainly not uncommon. It's probably not doing you a world of good but you're my age, as long as its not like this a decade from now I shouldn't think there'll be much of a problem?

The multivitamins and codliver oil is good for healthy joints, skin and commercials .

	13-03-2005 05:13									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Verres You really can buy all sorts of medical stuff over the counter these days. I take......a lot. I never thought it that strange, until earlier I was reading American Psycho and discovered my routines are scarily like his. At least in the pill popping sense. So....what do you all take in the way of over-the counter type stuff? And do you think its wise? Am I doing long term damage? Am I just worrying over nothing? My typical day involves: multivitamins codliver oil capsules St John's Wort 'paracetamol plus' (for hangover) co-dydramol (painkillers for recurrent back probs. Am perhaps a little addicted) 'pro-plus' at regular intervals to keep me awake 'sleep aid' (sleeping tablets, surprise surprise) for insomnia (all in addition to anti-depressants and the occassional line of coke. well, occassional/frequent. depends) I need opinions/advice. And you lot seem to be a fair cross-section of society, so...

Multivitamins are pretty inoccuous, as is St. John's Wort.
Why cod liver oil? Are you constipated?
I don't know what co-dydramol or pro=plus is. so I won't comment. Most OTC pain killers in the US are either basically tylenol, aspirin, ibuprofen or naprosyn. I wouldn't take paracetamol with them, as it works basically by the same mechanism. Take one or the other. Actually I don't think that paracetamol is even avail;able in the US because of its side effects. It's certainly no more effective than ibuprofen or naprosyn, so why not ditch it?
I see no reason to take OTC sleep aids and stimulants. A better solution would be a life style change.

	13-03-2005 05:14									#11
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quote: So....what do you all take in the way of over-the counter type stuff? And do you think its wise? Am I doing long term damage? Am I just worrying over nothing?

I took tylenol for a bad headache I had a few months ago. Then a couple years before that I took thera-flu because I had the flu real bad.

quote: multivitamins codliver oil capsules St John's Wort 'paracetamol plus' (for hangover) co-dydramol (painkillers for recurrent back probs. Am perhaps a little addicted) 'pro-plus' at regular intervals to keep me awake 'sleep aid' (sleeping tablets, surprise surprise) for insomnia (all in addition to anti-depressants and the occassional line of coke. well, occassional/frequent. depends)

You can easily replace the vitamins with a bowl of cereal every morning. As long as you're not starving you're more than likely getting more than enough of everything you need, all of the food nowadays is fortified. What do you take St Johns Wart for if you're on anti-depressants? Why do you take anything for hangovers? Just drink water and your hangover will dissappear, its caused by dehydration. You really shouldnt take pills to keep you awake, or pills to get to sleep, just fix your sleep schedule. As for the coke, seek help.

That cuts out everything except the prescription drugs. Im a miracle worker!

	13-03-2005 05:20									#12
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The insomnia is a constant battle. I don't take pro plus after 4pm so I doubt it affects my sleep patterns - but i still dont get enough sleep even on the sleeping tablets, so I often need it to stay awake. Plus my energy levels are usually 0.

I took st johns wart before I started on my anti-d's for the second time, and find it works well in combination (they're not sssri's)

	13-03-2005 05:23									#13
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My main source of drugs are coffee, cigarettes and red wine. Last time drugs was nessecary is more than 10 years ago, and only because the doc thought it was a good idea.

	13-03-2005 05:25									#14
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quote: I took st johns wart before I started on my anti-d's for the second time, and find it works well in combination (they're not sssri's)

Its probably just the meds working. If the the St Johns wasnt doing anything before you started the meds, its most likely still doing nothing. But you know your body best, so its really your call as to whether or not it helps.

	13-03-2005 05:25									#15
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one thing.. I didn't think lines of coke were over the counter?

Jon Miller

	13-03-2005 05:26									#16
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quote: one thing.. I didn't think lines of coke were over the counter?

you do your lines under the counter?

	13-03-2005 05:29									#17
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thats why I said 'in addition to'. Cipralex doesnt come over the counter either.

	13-03-2005 05:32									#18
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I would actually like to get off the high blood pressure medicine

but my doctor wants me in good shape and all before I try to go off

and I have not been working out regularly since last december (and have put on 10 pounds.. so am about 40 over where I should be)

Jon Miller

	13-03-2005 05:44									#19
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I never take any medication.

quote: Originally posted by Verres multivitamins

Why don't you eat some fruit instead?

quote: codliver oil capsules St John's Wort

What are those?

quote: 'paracetamol plus' (for hangover)

Perhaps you should drink less. Or at least drink lots of water after drinking lots of alcohol.

quote: co-dydramol (painkillers for recurrent back probs. Am perhaps a little addicted)

Perhaps some exercise could help?

quote: 'pro-plus' at regular intervals to keep me awake 'sleep aid' (sleeping tablets, surprise surprise) for insomnia

quote: Originally posted by Verres The insomnia is a constant battle. I don't take pro plus after 4pm so I doubt it affects my sleep patterns

How can you be sure? Why not stop talking both medicine for some time, and see what happens?

quote: but i still dont get enough sleep even on the sleeping tablets, so I often need it to stay awake. Plus my energy levels are usually 0.

IIRC sleeping pills disturb your normal sleeping pattern, reducing the wellness of your sleep. So I guess it's normal you're still sleepy when taking them. Also if you need to take energizers to stay awake, why don't you sleep a hole in the day once in a weekend when you have little to do, to get out of this cycle of having to take energizers and sleeping pills at the same time?

quote: And you lot seem to be a fair cross-section of society, so...

Am I the only one who found this funny?

	13-03-2005 05:50									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Verres I need opinions/advice.

Opinion/ advice: stop taking so many of those pills. Okay, hat's a but flippant. But really, pro-plus is like £3/4 a packet, it's got to be expensive to pop so many pills!

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quote: Originally posted by Maniac quote: And you lot seem to be a fair cross-section of society, so... Am I the only one who found this funny?

No, actually I would be very scared if we were

	13-03-2005 06:03									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Verres You really can buy all sorts of medical stuff over the counter these days. I take......a lot. I never thought it that strange, until earlier I was reading American Psycho and discovered my routines are scarily like his. At least in the pill popping sense. So....what do you all take in the way of over-the counter type stuff? And do you think its wise? Am I doing long term damage? Am I just worrying over nothing? My typical day involves: multivitamins codliver oil capsules St John's Wort 'paracetamol plus' (for hangover) co-dydramol (painkillers for recurrent back probs. Am perhaps a little addicted) 'pro-plus' at regular intervals to keep me awake 'sleep aid' (sleeping tablets, surprise surprise) for insomnia (all in addition to anti-depressants and the occassional line of coke. well, occassional/frequent. depends) I need opinions/advice. And you lot seem to be a fair cross-section of society, so...

I wouldn't run if I were you, you'll make a rattling noise...

I used to have a friend who used to have so many supplements and crap like that in the morning that she'd have a glass of pills which she'd basically have to drink and wash down with something...I found it rather unhealthy and like a kind of hypochondria. Just ensure you get a balanced diet and definitely give up the cocaine...

	13-03-2005 06:06									#23
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...and taking all that pro plus would certainly cause trouble - taking several of those a day will mean you have a very high level of caffeine in your circulation and thus your inability to sleep and your need to take some sort of tranquiliser to knock you out, and a vicious cycle begins. Also bear in mind that cocaine is a highly efficacious stimulant as well. Cut them all out, including coffee or tea (perhaps with the exception of a cup or two early on in the day - I won't drink anything significantly caffeinated within 12 hours of me going to bed).

	13-03-2005 06:09									#24
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Another major concern is St. John's Wort and an antidepressant (an SSRI or SSNI I presume?). This is a major no-no and I'd consult your doctor about it fairly promptly. Besides I don't believe that there have ever been any studies into the efficacy of St. Johns Wort...

	13-03-2005 06:19									#25
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I take some rather nice multivits, nutritionist recommended them when I was competing in athletics and generally seemed to make me healthier, though that may have been less stress about my (slight) lack of fruit and veg. Been pretty bad at taking them recently though, just never seem to think of them.

Been happy with myself of myself for not taking Migraleve's for quite a while now. Not really a big thing, but it's nice to know I'm not riskiong rebound migraines anymore from being dependent on these to stop it.

Strangely I seem to react to chocolate like a drug, in that I get quite impressively hyper on them, but it may just be reacting to the stress and everything I'm doing here.

	13-03-2005 06:56									#26
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Nothing except four Dr Peppers a day. (10, 2, and 4! plus dinner).

	13-03-2005 06:59									#27
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as long as you dont blow 25k on 3 8 balls of coke...

	13-03-2005 07:07									#28
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That's a lot of coke. Though I was shocked at how much some of my acquaintances do of the stuff. Even with a brother who deals cheaply to her, she manages to spend large sums on a night out

	13-03-2005 16:07									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Another major concern is St. John's Wort and an antidepressant (an SSRI or SSNI I presume?). This is a major no-no and I'd consult your doctor about it fairly promptly. Besides I don't believe that there have ever been any studies into the efficacy of St. Johns Wort...

My doctor did mention something about it, only that it may increase side effects apparently. Which I can't say I've noticed.

As for whether it's actually any good or not....I usually ignore so-called 'studies' into herbal rememdies as most seem to be a lot of crap. I find it helps me, personally (particularly re anxiety, which my anti-d's dont seem to be dealing with at all) so therefore I take it.

(turns out i was wrong with what I said before - having actually bothered to read the leaflet for the first time in my life, it turns out it is an ssri Oh well)

	13-03-2005 16:10									#30
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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 as long as you dont blow 25k on 3 8 balls of coke...

If I had that much money I certainly wouldn't waste it on coke.

Anyway, this was a thread about legal supplements etc, not my other habits (I only included the cocaine/anti-d comment to give you all a fuller picture)