16-03-2005 20:09									#31
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quote: Not that there will ever be any revolution in the west, the working class is to divided, stupid and comportable with capitalism as it is. They don´t want change as long as they can stuff thier mouths with McDonalds, drive their SUVs and watch the mindnumbingly stupid excuse for tv-programs. Oh, and drink themselves to oblivion every other friday of course. **** that! ...or rather I don´t care anymore. Let the whole ****ing world burn, I´m doing what I think is right and I´m not concerned about anyone else but myself and my family and friends. I´m tired of preaching to people, trying to convince them what´s right. Tired of giving and giving and giving to a cause that no one cares about, the working class wouldn´t piss on us, even if we were on fire... If they are stupid enough to ignore the warnings, it´s not my problem. We´re all gonna die anyway, sooner or later.

Uh, yeah, sounds like you're quite the employment catch.

	16-03-2005 20:14									#32
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Of course, this isn´t something I would bring up on a job interview.

	16-03-2005 20:20									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X College is free, but you can´t really live on the money you borrow from the state.

Try it out. If I can do it in the US with an exwife and kid you can surely do it in Sweden.

quote: Besides they´ve changed the way you pay back. If you don´t get a job in the 6 months after your exams you´re basically screwed finacially...

Aren't you going to be eventually screwed financially anyway without an education?

	16-03-2005 20:20									#34
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Obviously. But have you thought about the possibility that your overall view towards society might be translating itself into subconscious actions/behaviors that might be sabotaging your job-search/interviewing efforts?

I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory.

	16-03-2005 20:21									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed Well, I'll be looking at unemployment in a few months once I get my (probably equally useless) Journalism degree. The media job market in Västerbotten is hardly stellar...

Yeah, it´s the same in Göteborg and Stockholm.

	16-03-2005 20:25									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Try it out. If I can do it in the US with an exwife and kid you can surely do it in Sweden.

I have tried it out. And there´s not any guarantees that I will get a job when I graduate. Even IF I could go the distance of 3-4 years.

quote: Aren't you going to be eventually skrewed financially anyway without an education?

I think you´re screwed either way. Might as well try to minimize the damage

	16-03-2005 20:27									#37
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Obviously. But have you thought about the possibility that your overall view towards society might be translating itself into subconscious actions/behaviors that might be sabotaging your job-search/interviewing efforts? I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory.

I never believed in any of the jobs that I had even when I was a raving conservative.

	16-03-2005 20:28									#38
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Obviously. But have you thought about the possibility that your overall view towards society might be translating itself into subconscious actions/behaviors that might be sabotaging your job-search/interviewing efforts? I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory.

I´m well aware that I will have to work in the "capitalist system" I´ve accepted that, there´s not like I can escape it. It IS a reality. But there might be something subconsciuos at work, who knows?

	16-03-2005 20:29									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X I have tried it out. And there´s not any guarantees that I will get a job when I graduate. Even IF I could go the distance of 3-4 years.

Of course there's no guarantee, but you are taking the "one day at a time" thing way to literally. You have to make some investments and take some risks in life.

	16-03-2005 20:35									#40
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I was once unemployed for 7 months and it was enough to drive me insane...hated it...

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Obviously. But have you thought about the possibility that your overall view towards society might be translating itself into subconscious actions/behaviors that might be sabotaging your job-search/interviewing efforts? I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory.

Ignorance, ignorance, ignorance. I am as left winged as Kamrat, perhaps even more so, but it doesn't render me incapable of working. On the contrary, it makes me rather diligent and committed due to my ethics about doing the right thing...

	16-03-2005 20:46									#42
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quote: I was once unemployed for 7 months and it was enough to drive me insane...hated it...

I've been unemployed for 7 months now. Im going ****ing looney.

	16-03-2005 20:49									#43
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I wonder if being unemployed by choice is different than being unemployed because no one will hire you. If I were rich being unemployed wouldn't be quite so bad, but eventually I would want to work I guess.

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Obviously. But have you thought about the possibility that your overall view towards society might be translating itself into subconscious actions/behaviors that might be sabotaging your job-search/interviewing efforts? I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory.

Which is why he shouldn't join the capitalist system. Take up a craft! Make your own buisness or find like minded people and form/join a collective, don't be a wage slave.

	16-03-2005 21:11									#45
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quote: I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory.

When it comes to doing your job I think it only hurts a communist if they went into the business (Accounting /Finance /Marketing) side of business. If they're a lab tech or a production guy, I really don't think it matters.

Of course viewing society in general in a negative light, could harm you from fully reentering society.

Every job I've had I've believed in when I started, it didn't always last.

	16-03-2005 21:32									#46
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory.

Oh BS.

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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed Well, I'll be looking at unemployment in a few months once I get my (probably equally useless) Journalism degree. The media job market in Västerbotten is hardly stellar...

Maybe I can help you land a job for ISS Facility services - where the real money is!

	16-03-2005 21:39									#48
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory.

That's patently false. I held two different jobs in the financial sector, and I was very cynical about what I was doing (money and working conditions were good though). However, I did my job cautiously, and I think my employers have been glad of my service. In my first job (which was entirely uninteresting), my dedication waned over time, despite me accepting more the usefulness of what I was doing.

BTW, I also had an internship I was extremely enthusiastic about (working for a Commie MP), and my dedication to the job was only slightly superior to what I did in financial companies.

	16-03-2005 21:54									#49
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory.

When I was temping in a finances office, I found it so dull that my motivation waned to the point where I was doing about 2 hours work in an 8 hour day. Then I got a bit of a ticking off for being a lazy bum, so I found a new belief. Rather than motviation based on the worthwhility of the capitalist system, my motivation was stemming entirely from a bubbling resentment towards my boss. I decided to do so much work in a day that they'd get annoyed with me constantly asking for more tasks to do.

	16-03-2005 22:03									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious I wonder if being unemployed by choice is different than being unemployed because no one will hire you. If I were rich being unemployed wouldn't be quite so bad, but eventually I would want to work I guess.

I've actually thought about this if I won the lottery big-- say 10 million dollars. Thats enough that I don't need to work ever again but I still would-- just part time and with long vacations-- I would also go back to college . . not to necessarily get another degree but to learn things that interest me

	16-03-2005 22:05									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison I was once unemployed for 7 months and it was enough to drive me insane...hated it...

I had 4 months and its wasn't fun at all . . . but I was collecting regular salary the whole time as part of my severance package so financially it was still good

	16-03-2005 22:05									#52
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quote: stemming entirely from a bubbling resentment towards my boss. I decided to do so much work in a day that they'd get annoyed with me constantly asking for more tasks to do.

Damn they really suckered you.

	16-03-2005 22:18									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat When I was temping in a finances office, I found it so dull that my motivation waned to the point where I was doing about 2 hours work in an 8 hour day. Then I got a bit of a ticking off for being a lazy bum, so I found a new belief. Rather than motviation based on the worthwhility of the capitalist system, my motivation was stemming entirely from a bubbling resentment towards my boss. I decided to do so much work in a day that they'd get annoyed with me constantly asking for more tasks to do.

Ya that will show him. If you worked even harder and he got a bonus then that would REALLY peeve him

	16-03-2005 22:33									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Moral Hazard quote: I mean, here's the thing: it's hard to do something if you don't believe in it to some extent. If you don't believe in "the capitalist system" (whatever the hell that means), then it's going to be hard to join and enter the "capitalist system" because any efforts you make will be half-hearted or desultory. When it comes to doing your job I think it only hurts a communist if they went into the business (Accounting /Finance /Marketing)

<------------------------- Studying to be an accountant


What is so different about being an accountant?

	16-03-2005 22:45									#55
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I think he means that if you succumb to the dark side, you´re lost and you will be assimilated into the capitalist collective

	16-03-2005 22:52									#56
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I just became unemployed so I feel for you. I can try unemployment but they have screwed up my records and say I have to pay pack money they claim they overpaid me. So Im kinda screwed unless I find a job soon. Guess I have to look a travel assignments again.

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Thanks, Mrs T Is it hard to find jobs in Texas btw?

	16-03-2005 22:59									#58
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In my field not really but I have pretty much worked at all the helth systems in san antonio. I have worked agency nursing so long now because it pays better. But the work isnt steady.in san antonio. I would go staff somewhere but I would lose about 10.00/per hour if I did that.

	16-03-2005 23:04									#59
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Mrs. Tub: Look into performing clinical studies, they pay well

Not sure how steady of a job it is.

Sometimes to avoid unemployment you might have to move. Oh the dreaded M word!

I gots a job interview in Denver, CO, friday, 8am... That's pretty much why I haven't been posting much, gotta figure out how to get there. Going to visit my sis and her new kid as well as my cousins why I am there.

Guess it's easier for me to suggest moving to get a job since I want to move. I haven't applied to a single job in my area.

On top of it, I found out on Monday that my division might be downsizing, I'm listening to the Director call up some connects of his trying to get some of his employees jobs before he tells them their history.

I guess it's a good thing I was already looking for a change of scenery.

To everyone looking; gl

	16-03-2005 23:10									#60
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Well I only have one problem with looking right now Tubes and I were planning a trip to utah next month mid april. Icant really accept a 13 week contract if we want to do this. My contract was supposed to go to the 8 of april so im kinda at a loss of what to do