15-04-2005 10:31									#331
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Rah has my orders for this round and the next, but I am out of town starting tomorrow A.M. until sometime Sunday evening. I should have internet access some time between now and then however, so may still get another turn in (depending on how quickly this turn and the next are processed).

Hopefully I don't hold up the game.

* Sparrowhawk

	15-04-2005 18:16									#332
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Sorry didn't get all the orders till I had left yesterday, heading into a BORING 3 hour meeting, will update when I get out. Sorry for the delay. First real one for this race, hopefully it will be the last one.

	15-04-2005 23:00									#333
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Damn it, In my rush to clean my inbox, I deleted spaced earlier email that listed his orders for the next few turns. Could you please resend them Spaced. Sorry.

	15-04-2005 23:52									#334
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rescent

	16-04-2005 00:34									#335
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TURN 19

code:


                          *******
                         ********* 
                         ****   *** 
                          ***    ***
                         ***     ***
                        ***      ***  
                       ***       *** 
                      *O*        **O  
                     ***         *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          **** 
                    **O           ****
                    ***            **** 
                    ***             ****
                    ***              ==== end alley
                    ***               *xx* 16 
                    ***                *Sx* 15 
                  *******               *SxS 14 
                  *******                *SSx 13
                  *******                 *xSx 12 
                  *******                  SSxS 11 
                  *******                   xSSx 10
                  *******                    SSxS 9 
                  ********                    SxSx 8 
                  *********                    xSSS 7  
                  **********                    SxSS 6  
                  ******* ***                    *SxS 5
                  *******  **                     *SSx 4 
                  *******  #7-speed limit          *SxS 3   
                  *******  3*     6                 *SS* 2 
                  *******  5*                        *SS* 1 )
                  *******  **                         ====  start
                  *******  2*                     ***O****   sandtrap
                  *******  PP-pit stop           ********     alley
                  *******  **  marker           ********  
      finish line =======  4*                  ***
                  *******  **                 ***  
                  *******  **                *** 
                  *******  **               *** 
                  *******  ##-end limit    **O 
                  ******* ***             ***    
                  **********        *********  
                  *********        ********* 
                  ********        *********   
                  ****1**        *** 
                  ******        *** 
                  *****        ***
                  ****        *O*
                  ****       *** 
                  ****      ***
                   ***     *** 
                    ***     ***
                     ***     ***
                      ***     **O
                       O**     ***
                        ***     ***
                         *6*    ***
                          **** ****
                           *******
                            *****


MAX=Max speed
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC    MAX  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **     **  ****  **********
 1.   Spaced Cowboy        SW       5     4     17  turb  R(4M)
 2.   Kassiopeia            S       4     1     11  turb  (5M)B
 3.   Sparrowhawk           S       5     8      6  perf  (M2)R(M3)B
 4.   gjramsey              S       5     3     15  turb  B(M4)A
 5.   Tuberski              S       5     3      8  sway  BRMMMM
 6.   Jonny                SE       9     4     10  sway  B(m4)L(m4)
 7.   Vovan                 S       5     2      6  sway  L(3M)RMB

	16-04-2005 00:44									#336
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Sent.

	16-04-2005 00:56									#337
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Sent.

Oh and I think the pit stop has so far worked quite well

	16-04-2005 01:09									#338
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sent

I concur on the pit working well Should be an entertaining lap ahead of us

	16-04-2005 09:44									#339
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Sent.

ACK!

	16-04-2005 21:18									#340
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Sent.

	17-04-2005 03:35									#341
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TURN 20

code:


                          *******
                         ********* 
                         ****   *** 
                          ***    ***
                         ***     ***
                        ***      ***  
                       ***       *** 
                      *O*        **O  
                     ***         *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          **** 
                    **O           ****
                    ***            **** 
                    ***             ****
                    ***              ==== end alley
                    ***               *xx* 16 
                    ***                *Sx* 15 
                  *******               *SxS 14 
                  *******                *SSx 13
                  *******                 *xSx 12 
                  *******                  SSxS 11 
                  *******                   xSSx 10
                  *******                    SSxS 9 
                  ********                    SxSx 8 
                  *********                    xSSS 7  
                  **********                    SxSS 6  
                  ******* ***                    *SxS 5
                  *******  **                     *SSx 4 
                  *******  ##-speed limit          *SxS 3   
                  *******  **     6                 *SS* 2 
                  *******  **                        *SS* 1 )
                  *******  **                         ====  start
                  *******  7*                     ***O****   sandtrap
                  *******  3P-pit stop           ********     alley
                  *******  5*  marker           ********  
      finish line =======  **                  ***
                  *******  2*                 ***  
                  *******  **                *** 
                  *******  **               *** 
                  *******  ##-end limit    **O 
                  ******* ***             ***    
                  ********4*        *********  
                  *********        ********* 
                  ********        *********   
                  *******        *** 
                  ******        *** 
                  *****        ***
                  ****        *O*
                  ****       *** 
                  ***1      ***
                   ***     *** 
                    ***     ***
                     ***     ***
                      ***     **O
                       O**     ***
                        ***     ***
                         ***    ***
                          **** ***6
                           *******
                            *****


MAX=Max speed
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC    MAX  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **     **  ****  **********
 1.   Spaced Cowboy         S       5     4     17  turb  ML(3M)
 2.   Kassiopeia            S       5     3     17  turb  (4M)A
 3.   Sparrowhawk           S       4    10     12  perf  B(M4)
 4.   gjramsey             SW       6     3     15  turb  A(M5)R
 5.   Tuberski              S       5     5     14  sway  BMMMMA
 6.   Jonny                NE       8     4     10  sway  B(m3)L(m2)L(m1)
 7.   Vovan                 S       4     2      6  sway  RLMMB

Last edited by rah on 17-04-2005 at 03:54

	17-04-2005 03:42									#342
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Rah, my speed should be 4 I believe?

	17-04-2005 03:42									#343
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Hmm. Ramsey did AmmmmA, with the first A before the crossing of the ##. Wasn't that supposed to count as usage of the special power?

	17-04-2005 03:43									#344
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Hmm. Ramsey did AmmmmA, with the first A before the crossing of the ##. Wasn't that supposed to count as usage of the special power?

I don't think so, because the second A, which is the actual use of the special power, was outside the pits.

	17-04-2005 03:46									#345
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I'm just echoing what rah has said himself.

quote: A REMINDER THAT SPECIAL POWERS NOT ALLOWED IN THE PIT (PROPER) A BmmmmmmB counts as using your special power, and you can't use WC's either. But a BBmmmmmm prior to crossing the ## works or a mmmmmAA if you've cleared the ##.

Although I think "interpreting" is the right word

	17-04-2005 03:49									#346
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Yeah, I think his last example of

quote: mmmmmAA if you've cleared the ##

Also covers the case AmmmmA for when the second A happens after you passed the ##.

	17-04-2005 03:51									#347
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Hmm, that makes sense, it's just that he didn't specify that you could do AmmmA if you have cleared the pit after the latter instance of A. So that AmmmA is only possible when leaving, not entering.

It's just that you can't really be sure which is the A that is using the special power and which isn't, since you can put the acceleration at the beginning or the end. It could be the A taking place in the pits or it couldn't.

	17-04-2005 03:55									#348
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Good catch. I removed the second A and dropped his speed to 6. I'm glad you guys check this stuff, since it's so easy to make and error.

	17-04-2005 04:00									#349
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Oh, good to know I was right (for a change), that means I won't have to change my orders (for the second time), which have been sent, twice.

	17-04-2005 04:38									#350
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Sent!

ACK!

	17-04-2005 06:23									#351
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Oh, good to know I was right (for a change), that means I won't have to change my orders (for the second time), which have been sent, twice.

Ah, good catch Kassiopeia. Another rule disambiguated.

Also puts me one step closer to overtaking ramsey.

Orders sent.

Vovan

	17-04-2005 07:20									#352
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OK, I think I am now confused. Why is my second A being disallowed??? It was outside of the pits, and would be consided a wildcard if it was not being used as a special power. The BMMMMMB example makes sense to me, since the second happens in the pits. In my case, the special power is happening outside of the pits, so in my mind it is not using the special power. AAMMMM in the pit area makes sense to me as being disallowed.

	17-04-2005 07:58									#353
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Sent.

	17-04-2005 08:58									#354
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Like I said, basically it's not necessarily possible to disambiguate between the A that takes place in the pits and the A that doesn't. However, IMO AmmmA when the latter A takes place outside the pits should be acceptable (it'd benefit me as well in this case), but it's the GM's call. *shrug*

	17-04-2005 18:15									#355
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I think it is easy to determine what the special power is.

quote: 1. Turbo: You can issue a second accelerate OR brake command during your turn without using a WC.

So I think the special power would be the second A or B that is issued in any given turn, and in this case, would be the one outside the pits.

	17-04-2005 19:50									#356
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Anywho....orders sent based on speed in the update above.

	17-04-2005 20:21									#357
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Don't worry Ramsey, I tried to do the same thing, but Rah disallowed it. It ended up costing me a turn cuz I can't accelerate out of the pits and hope to make the double left into the corner.

It is possible to get through the pits nicely, but you are really foing to have to set it up perfectly.

	17-04-2005 20:46									#358
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I have to say it makes sense to me. The special power and/or WC is essentially the combination between the two accelerations, so you can't distinguish between them. And otherwise the rule would take far less of an effect, with most people only having 1 turn affected by it.

It forces you to set up for the pit properly, giving you enough speed to exit the pit in such a way that you can double-accelerate at the end...

	17-04-2005 20:54									#359
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eh, I can live with it, cause having only 3 wildcards on this lap will be very interesting for me to handle.

Plus, it's all in fun anyway!

	18-04-2005 19:12									#360
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TURN 21

code:


                          *******
                         ********* 
                         ****   *** 
                          ***    ***
                         ***     ***
                        ***      ***  
                       ***       *** 
                      *O*        **O  
                     ***         *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          **** 
                    **O           ****
                    ***            **** 
                    ***             ****
                    ***              ==== end alley
                    ***               *xx* 16 
                    ***                *Sx* 15 
                  *******               *SxS 14 
                  *******                *SSx 13
                  *******                 *xSx 12 
                  *******                  SSxS 11 
                  *******                   xSSx 10
                  *******                    SSxS 9 
                  ********                    SxSx 8 
                  *********                    xSSS 7  
                  **********                    SxSS 6  
                  ******* ***                    *SxS 5
                  *******  **                     *SSx 4 
                  *******  ##-speed limit          *SxS 3   
                  *******  **     6                 *SS* 2 
                  *******  **                        *SS* 1 )
                  *******  **                         ====  start
                  *******  **                     ***O****   sandtrap
                  *******  PP-pit stop           ********     alley
                  *******  **  marker           ********  
      finish line =======  7*                  ***
                  *******  **                 ***  
                  *******  3*                *** 
                  *******  **               *** 
                  *******  ##-end limit    **O 
                  ******* 5**             ***    
                  *******2**        *********  
                  *********        ********* 
                  ********        *********   
                  *******        *** 
                  ******        *** 
                  *****        ***
                  ****        *O*
                  ****       6** 
                  ***4      ***
                   ***     *** 
                    ***     ***
                     ***     ***
                      ***     **O
                       O*1     ***
                        ***     ***
                         ***    ***
                          **** ****
                           *******
                            *****


MAX=Max speed
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC    MAX  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **     **  ****  **********
 1.   Spaced Cowboy        SE       5     4     17  turb  ML(3M)
 2.   Kassiopeia           SW       7     3     17  turb  (3M)RMAA
 3.   Sparrowhawk           S       5    10     12  perf  (M4)A
 4.   gjramsey              S       6     3     15  turb  AA(M5)L(M2)BB
 5.   Tuberski             SW       6     5     14  sway  AMMMMMR
 6.   Jonny                NE       9     4     10  sway  ALL(m5)RR
 7.   Vovan                 S       4     4     13  sway  B(3M)A

Tuber's A+1 removed as it would violate the pit rule we have been discussing for a week

Jonny increases his lead but can he hold on for almost 2 laps more with only a 10 max speed.
Spaced continues to race conservatively, so he must have a plan.
GJ comes flying out of the pit and takes advantage of the turbo power.

The rest have passed the recharge point and can now flex their muscles.

And yes, I've really liked how the pitstop has added to the game, and will have to fiddle around with shorter tracks so more laps don't take forever. But it's tough to do that and still get the straightaways long enough for speed to matter.



Now accepting orders for turn 22.