26-03-2005 00:34									#1
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I consider myself a non-Marxist Socialist. I am for a VERY strongly regulated free market with all businesses governed as co-ops in non-essential industries, while the essential industries are controled by governemnt agencies and government-owned corporations. The Co-ops with get their capital from government-owned investment banks. I think government should stay out of people's bedrooms and people's personal life and religion should stay out of government.

	26-03-2005 01:01									#2
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I'm a flip-flopper.

I'm serious. Mix all the above, and you have me.

	26-03-2005 01:06									#3
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I tend to be a pseudo-Libertarian, pseudo-anarcho-Capitalist who believes in Technofundamentalism and that society would be better off with an inherent belief in Confucian and general ethics such as "be nice to everyone, be polite to everyone, be loyal to family and friends."

The closest one above is Libertarian, because I do understand the need of a government to provide some basic services.

	26-03-2005 01:15									#4
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I voted for neo-liberal/capitalist democrat even though I'm not sure what that is. . It sounds about right though.

	26-03-2005 01:26									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I voted for neo-liberal/capitalist democrat even though I'm not sure what that is. . It sounds about right though.

That's for DanS types. I thought you were a Libertarian?

	26-03-2005 01:32									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Odin That's for DanS types. I thought you were a Libertarian?

libertarian is good in theory, but does not work in the real world. Too much reliance on people being responsible for their own actions- which people just can't seem to do.

	26-03-2005 01:37									#7
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I'm a Teddy Roosevelt Progressive... at least that's the best way I can summarize my beliefs.

	26-03-2005 01:38									#8
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quote: libertarian is good in theory, but does not work in the real world. Too much reliance on people being responsible for their own actions- which people just can't seem to do.

it's a damn shame, too.

thought, internalization of some ethics couldn't hurt--cf Japanese and SKorean fans during WC2002, where they cleaned up after themselves after every match.

	26-03-2005 01:45									#9
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Centrist.

	26-03-2005 01:46									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Centrist.

	26-03-2005 01:49									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident libertarian is good in theory, but does not work in the real world. Too much reliance on people being responsible for their own actions- which people just can't seem to do.

Exactly. Also it is an unstable system because it would either collapse into corporate feudalism, or people the poor people who get shafted will support a left-wing populist demogouge (like Castro) and there will be a revolution.

	26-03-2005 01:51									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Centrist.

LIAR!!!

	26-03-2005 01:53									#13
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that's almost as funny as Ned claiming to be a Kennedy Liberal... or Fez claiming to be slightly center-right.

	26-03-2005 02:08									#14
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I'm liberal on some issues, but very conservative on others. I'm not sure what to pick...

	26-03-2005 02:35									#15
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quote: Syndicalist

What's this? Like the video game?

I'm not sure, I usually split my ticket almost down the middle, and love a divided government. Does that make me centrist? Ideally I'd like to see a non-partisan President. Who is pragmatic and without an agenda. Who tries execute all laws and doesn't use a veto, except against maybe a lame duck legislature, or an unconstitutional law. Of course that's all a pipe dream.

Let's see I like the free market, but would like to see very active regulators. Who ardently pursue lawbreakers, anti-trust etc. I also like the idea of Employee representation on the boards, but in the minority. I'd like a Stakeholder mentality. But without the rigidity which comes from too much government interference. Makes me pretty much on the Economic left, but I'd like to have my cake and eat it too. Oh and I'd like a vastly simplified Tax structure, semi-privatization of SS (allow you to shift it to regulated security managers).

Social issues rarely influence my vote, I'm conservative in my personal beliefs, but I really haven't decided what governments place is in social issues.

Diplomatically; I lean toward isolationism.

	26-03-2005 02:42									#16
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I have no idea what to call me, but according to the poll on www.okcupid.com I'm somewhere in the middle of that Indian peace-dude (why can't I remember his name now? ) and the center of the "cross"

What would that make me?

	26-03-2005 02:45									#17
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I like to think of myself as a neo-syndical-anarcho-psychopath plutocrat, but I usually score as some type of fiscally-conservative libertarian on the various quizzes that are posted here. As I see it, it's just proof that those quizzes are ****).

	26-03-2005 02:54									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio I have no idea what to call me, but according to the poll on www.okcupid.com I'm somewhere in the middle of that Indian peace-dude (why can't I remember his name now? ) and the center of the "cross" What would that make me?

I did your little quiz.

the question I was most unsure of is whether illiterate people should have the right to vote.

Here are my results.

You are a

Social Liberal
(66% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(38% permissive)


You are best described as a:

Democrat

	26-03-2005 02:59									#19
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I think I'm either a non-Marxist communist or an Anarco-communist. I haven't voted yet though.

	26-03-2005 03:05									#20
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Second time I took the test I got a little different score, but not that much difference:

You are a

Social Liberal
(60% permissive)


and an...

Economic Liberal
(23% permissive)


You are best described as a:

Democrat

	26-03-2005 03:06									#21
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Not sure what that would make me though..! A Social Democrat?

	26-03-2005 03:08									#22
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Yay, go Libertarians!

	26-03-2005 03:10									#23
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You are a

Social Conservative
(26% permissive)


and an...

Economic Moderate
(55% permissive)


You are best described as a:

Republican


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

	26-03-2005 03:11									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Moral Hazard quote: Syndicalist What's this? Like the video game? I'm not sure, I usually split my ticket almost down the middle, and love a divided government. Does that make me centrist? Ideally I'd like to see a non-partisan President. Who is pragmatic and without an agenda. Who tries execute all laws and doesn't use a veto, except against maybe a lame duck legislature, or an unconstitutional law. Of course that's all a pipe dream. Let's see I like the free market, but would like to see very active regulators. Who ardently pursue lawbreakers, anti-trust etc. I also like the idea of Employee representation on the boards, but in the minority. I'd like a Stakeholder mentality. But without the rigidity which comes from too much government interference. Makes me pretty much on the Economic left, but I'd like to have my cake and eat it too. Oh and I'd like a vastly simplified Tax structure, semi-privatization of SS (allow you to shift it to regulated security managers). Social issues rarely influence my vote, I'm conservative in my personal beliefs, but I really haven't decided what governments place is in social issues. Diplomatically; I lean toward isolationism.

If I rember right, Sydicalism is joint control of the means of production by capitalists and labor.

I think you would be a Christian Democrat or a Centrist

	26-03-2005 03:12									#25
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* Jaguar laughs at Odin because the poll is being dominated by Libs. And not the kind Odin likes.

	26-03-2005 03:22									#26
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quote: BRIAN: Are you the Judean People's Front? REG: **** off! BRIAN: What? REG: Judean People's Front. We're the People's Front of Judea! Judean People's Front. Cawk. FRANCIS: ****ers. BRIAN: Can I... join your group? REG: No. Piss off. BRIAN: I didn't want to sell this stuff. It's only a job. I hate the Romans as much as anybody. PEOPLE'S FRONT OF JUDEA: Shhhh. Shhhh. Shhh. Shh. Shhhh. REG: Schtum. JUDITH: Are you sure? BRIAN: Oh, dead sure. I hate the Romans already. REG: Listen. If you really wanted to join the P.F.J., you'd have to really hate the Romans. BRIAN: I do! REG: Oh, yeah? How much? BRIAN: A lot! REG: Right. You're in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the ****ing Judean People's Front. P.F.J.: Yeah... JUDITH: Splitters. P.F.J.: Splitters... FRANCIS: And the Judean Popular People's Front. P.F.J.: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters... LORETTA: And the People's Front of Judea. P.F.J.: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters... REG: What? LORETTA: The People's Front of Judea. Splitters. REG: We're the People's Front of Judea! LORETTA: Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front. REG: People's Front! C-huh. FRANCIS: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg? REG: He's over there. P.F.J.: Splitter! GOLIATH: [pant pant pant] Ooh. Ooh. I-- I think I'm about to have a... cardiac arrest. Ooh. Ooh. SPECTATOR: Absolutely dreadful. Hmm. CROWD: [cheering] REG: Yes, brother! Ha ha. What's your name? BRIAN: Brian. Brian Cohen. REG: We may have a little job for you, Brian.

	26-03-2005 04:16									#27
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You are a

Social Liberal
(71% permissive)



and an...

Economic Liberal
(10% permissive)



You are best described as a:


Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

I love quizzes

	26-03-2005 04:20									#28
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quote: Syndicalist What's this? Like the video game?

Syndicalism is a form of socialism where unions are the basis for revolution (i.e. through strikes, using pensions to buy out companies, etc.), and for organization of society. Typically, syndicalists believe in the state having a minimal role. They're called "anarcho-syndicalists."

I generally consider myself an anarcho-syndicalist.

I'm also an anarcho-socialist and a non-Marxist socialist (both broader categories).

	26-03-2005 04:22									#29
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Non-marxist Socialist.

Much better poll than Vesayen btw, as it is not a club thread

	26-03-2005 04:23									#30
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BTW, what's the difference between a Libbie and an anarcho-capitalist?