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Agathon is offline Agathon
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Didn't see a thread on this.

Sick of the sanctimonious Americans issuing reports on Chinese human rights violations, the Chinese government decided to respond in kind.



The result is pretty much spot on.

http://english.people.com.cn/200503...303_175406.html

I have to laugh at the Americans complaining about this. Let him who is without sin...

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By the Information Office of the State Council of the People's Republic of China


a reliable source

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You missed the funny bit..

Look at the sources for their claims.. the vast majority of them are mainstream US media or US government agencies.

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the report may have some legitimate points, but coming from China, what they say will ring hollow

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One could say exactly the same of the US... which is the whole point.

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the funny bit is really that China would actually make a report on human rights.

All it should contain is "We are trying to kill less people this year than last, but we can't promise anything. Taiwan suks!"

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Again, one could say exactly the same of the US. Only countries like Sweden have anything close to the moral authority to issue such reports.

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a reliable source




It is published by the people's China Daily!

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That Aggie would even defend the Chinese record on human rights speaks volumes about him.

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It is published by the people's China Daily!

meh

it was sarcasm

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This is an interesting proposal by Aggie... only those who have no human rights issues should talk about other country's human rights abuses, and no one that has human rights abuses can speak about any other country's (even if the other country has worse abuses). And this is supposed to help human rights? Or was that not considered?

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@ the Chinese idea

Won't change anything, but still is a good laugh

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First Paragraph:

" In 2004 the atrocity of US troops abusing Iraqi POWs exposed the dark side of human rights performance of the United States. The scandal shocked the humanity and was condemned by the international community. It is quite ironic that on Feb. 28 of this year, the State Department of the United States once again posed as the "the world human rights police" and released its Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2004. As in previous"

Phew! Anyone living outside FoxNews and Pravda (and Guardian) can clearly see the amateur use of words. This is too visible, but it's good enough for 'believers', they'll eat it. Let me begin..

Atrocity, abuse, POW, exposure, dark side in the same and very first sentence. WOW! How about spreading those words on TWO sentences, this way it'll stick better with the 'objective' readers.

The scandal shocked the humanity? That's nice way of putting the words, but again, too strong. The propaganda is TOO strong. It needs to be more undetectable.

"the world human rights police" Ahh.. putting it inside quotation marks makes a nice ring to it, but it's too much giving a personal opinion of the writer. Too clear.

What can I say.. this type of propaganda still goes in some old commie countries? Surprising. They are a lot better in here already.

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The People's China Daily is the government owned mouth piece of the Chinese Communist Party. They've never published anything but propoganda in its entire history.

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Read the Goddamn report you cretins. Most of the points made come directly from the US media which the Chinese have helpfully cited. That's why it's funny: most of what they claim was cobbled together by your own MSM.

It's not my idea Imran. "Let him who is without sin... " is classic red-stater fare.

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It's pretty much spot on.

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Just because Canada is soooo perfect.

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don't shatter our precious, precious illusions....

(Seeker sobs as Canada prepares to get in line with WIPO copyright provisions under yank pressure)

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Read the Goddamn report you cretins.


Maybe you should take your own advice?

I read enough to see that they report the use of TASERs as 'infringement of human rights by law enforcement agencies'.

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
This is an interesting proposal by Aggie... only those who have no human rights issues should talk about other country's human rights abuses, and no one that has human rights abuses can speak about any other country's (even if the other country has worse abuses). And this is supposed to help human rights? Or was that not considered?


Clearly, if a country does not have an ethical high ground to stand on, any "human rights reports" issued by said country will only be laughed at (at least in private) and not taken seriously.

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TASERs do make police officers more prone to use force.

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I read enough to see that they report the use of TASERs as 'infringement of human rights by law enforcement agencies'.


Dude, I come from a country where the police are armed only with shiny sticks. If they started TASERing people, there would be a public outcry.

Then again, our criminals tend to think it unsporting to shoot at policemen.

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Bit of a difference, isn't it?

Canadian police use TASERs. It usually results in them not having to use the guns and batons.

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Bit of a difference, isn't it?

Canadian police use TASERs. It usually results in them not having to use the guns and batons.


Our police rarely use batons either. You Canadians are a violent lot.

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Canadian police use TASERs. It usually results in them not having to use the guns and batons.


TASER's are not fun, they hurt a whole lot. Put it this way, they aren't more humane than sticks.

Better off karate chopping the suspects.

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I'd love to see the NZ pigs try that. They be the laughing stock of the South Pacific.

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TASER's are not fun, they hurt a whole lot.
Isn't that kind of the point?

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TASER's are not fun, they hurt a whole lot. Put it this way, they aren't more humane than sticks.

Better off karate chopping the suspects.


You try that when a very large, or erratic person is waving a hunting knife around.

They aren't more humane that sticks that will break bones and fracture skulls?

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