31-03-2005 11:50									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor At least in my field of Academia, peer review is most often a joke. The "peers" are often acquaintances or friends of each other, and they often have written collective works. They don't tend to take shots at each other, and they're mostly interested in the productions of their clique (which is normal, considering that their clique is the group that specializes on the topic they're specialized the most)

Sounds like they need to have some boot applied to the ass then. I can guarantee you that peer review is not a joke in my field. The really respected journals (Physical Review, J App Phys, Astrophysical Journal etc) are very difficult to get published in, and the quality of the papers contained within them is very very high.

	31-03-2005 11:51									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident professors are very well paid. If these liberals were truelly compassionate, they would be teachers.

You have got to compare, though, what they could make if they went into business.

	31-03-2005 11:52									#93
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People who go into business in my field are generally the ones who couldn't get a faculty appointment.

	31-03-2005 11:53									#94
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara They're handicapped by their morals.

Obviously correct. If one does not believe in making a profit, they should not be in the private sector.

	31-03-2005 11:53									#95
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If I can get a faculty appointment I will never even consider going into business, no matter what I was offered...

	31-03-2005 11:54									#96
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Actually, they're handicapped by the fact that business is boring.

	31-03-2005 11:59									#97
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Actually, they're handicapped by the fact that business is boring.

So much for ethics, then.

But, I would hardly agree. Business can be a lot of fun. PhD's in business primarily invent new things that really help people. This is more than fun, it is life affirming.

	31-03-2005 12:08									#98
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No, they become cogs in a machine, doing work that would force a real researcher to gouge his eyes out due to the tedium.

	31-03-2005 12:09									#99
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People who want to work on interesting problems stay in academia...

	31-03-2005 14:12									#100
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dunno

after ten years in academia, i am glad i am finally able to 'stretch my legs' a bit

	31-03-2005 14:13									#101
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what field are you in?

	31-03-2005 14:14									#102
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I can't believe you just wasted a CBeast to ask that boring question...

	31-03-2005 14:16									#103
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I can't believe you aren't busy ****ing Asian *****es

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Goodbye

	31-03-2005 15:25									#105
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quote: I can't believe you aren't busy ****ing Asian *****es

It's not my fault. My Asian ***** is still in the Phillippines...

	31-03-2005 17:57									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor At least in my field of Academia, peer review is most often a joke. The "peers" are often acquaintances or friends of each other, and they often have written collective works. They don't tend to take shots at each other, and they're mostly interested in the productions of their clique (which is normal, considering that their clique is the group that specializes on the topic they're specialized the most). When something is very important, I would think some exceptional peer review is in order.

I think any peer review at all is in order, given what you've said.

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse People who want to work on interesting problems stay in academia...

I'm sure there are a number of fields in which this is definately not true...

	31-03-2005 20:09									#108
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quote: I'm sure there are a number of fields in which this is definately not true...

Commerce, Management and all the other fake academic subjects.

	31-03-2005 20:11									#109
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quote: I'm sure there are a number of fields in which this is definately not true...

What would Agathon do if he actually had to work for a living? I can't believe you hate him so much.

	31-03-2005 20:14									#110
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quote: What would Agathon do if he actually had to work for a living? I can't believe you hate him so much.

I bet I work harder than you.

	31-03-2005 20:16									#111
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I doubt that very much. I know what professors in real academic fields of study do all day and you aren't even in a real academic field.

	31-03-2005 20:22									#112
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What would you know...

	31-03-2005 22:56									#113
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I doubt that very much. I know what professors in real academic fields of study do all day and you aren't even in a real academic field.

Your knowledge may be restricted. My parents are both professors, and they never have any time for anything. And maybe my parents are the exception. But I get the impression that the parents of my friends back in high school (also generally professors) didn't have that much leisure time either.

Also, the reality of the academic field really doesn't effect the amount of work. Work in academia is work in academia.

	01-04-2005 00:10									#114
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I doubt that very much. I know what professors in real academic fields of study do all day and you aren't even in a real academic field.

I'd hazard a guess that most of the professors under 60 years old in my department work at least 60 hours a week.

	01-04-2005 00:11									#115
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I'd wager you don't work in the philosophy department (as Agathon does).

	01-04-2005 00:12									#116
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I work about 50 hours a week. Last year from Jan. to May I worked about 80 hours a week.

	01-04-2005 00:13									#117
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That ran me pretty ragged. 5 graduate level classes + TAing + research = tired

	01-04-2005 03:31									#118
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I'm teaching two courses (both for the first time) and TAing and grading as well as doing research.

	01-04-2005 17:28									#119
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Funny that it takes you three different descriptors to describe teaching functions.

Teaching, TAing, and grading

F***ing pansies. My Dad taught 30+ years while doing research and being a full time farmer. He put himself through school (paid in full by himself) by working a full time job (outside of the academia functions) in addition to those pansy ohhh sooo hard activities such as TAing and OMFG grading while completing undergrad in 3 years. Did his masters the same way in 1.5 yrs and his doctorate work another 1.5 years.


Stop your sniveling and work for a change.

$20,000/annum too f*king bad. Pops was doing that while in school and supporting a pregnant wife back in the 60's.

	01-04-2005 18:26									#120
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$20k per year in the '60s was a pretty good wage.