01-04-2005 18:42									#121
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Damn skinny,no telling what you can do when you actually work.

	01-04-2005 18:51									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker The academia has that responsibility anyway. Politics should NOT have any effect on the researchers.

	01-04-2005 18:51									#123
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse No, they become cogs in a machine, doing work that would force a real researcher to gouge his eyes out due to the tedium.

There can be interesting business problems. But then if you really want to work on those you become a consultant or even a B-school prof. That said, you have a point, just not sure if it is to the extent you say.

	01-04-2005 18:53									#124
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse That ran me pretty ragged. 5 graduate level classes + TAing + research = tired

That is quite a load and requires that you really love what you are doing. Even with that, I'd be worried that you might not be getting enough value out of the courses, because of the schedule.

	01-04-2005 18:55									#125
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Pansy

	01-04-2005 20:16									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: I'm sure there are a number of fields in which this is definately not true... Commerce, Management and all the other fake academic subjects.

Off the top of my head... aerospace engineering? I'd assume working for NASA would be more interesting than sitting in some uni.

	01-04-2005 20:18									#127
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"...........and those who can't teach"

It would appear that leftists in the USA make up the prepoderance of "those who can't".

	01-04-2005 21:11									#128
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quote: Teaching, TAing, and grading

Because it's three different jobs, numbnuts, with three different contracts.

I'd love a part time job during the summer but immigration won't let me.

	01-04-2005 21:28									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe . He put himself through school (paid in full by himself) by working a full time job (outside of the academia functions) in addition to those pansy ohhh sooo hard activities such as TAing and OMFG grading while completing undergrad in 3 years.

I have serious doubts about your dads capabilities as either a researcher, farmer, or teacher (unless his research was on farm stuff or teaching stuff)

but this is at least not too bad (I paid my own way through (took out a bit of loan) and did a part time job + TA (actually that was part of the part time job.. so you are saying that your dade worked 1.25-1.5 time? (~60 horus a week)) and I could have graduated in 3 years (Wanted the Math major also..)....

farmer does not mean that you have some chickens and maybe a garden...

researcher does not mean that you put out a paper once a year or so...

and I don't call people teacher who put in 4 hours a week work on a 3 hour class (and most nonresearch universities require two classes taught per semester)

Jon Miller

	01-04-2005 21:29									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: Teaching, TAing, and grading Because it's three different jobs, numbnuts, with three different contracts. I'd love a part time job during the summer but immigration won't let me.

grading is often included with the TA and teaching...

there is sometimes just more than available for a TA or teacher to do

JM

	01-04-2005 21:32									#131
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btw, most active and productive researchers I know spend 60+ hours a week doing research

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	01-04-2005 21:45									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: Teaching, TAing, and grading Because it's three different jobs, numbnuts, with three different contracts.

Waaah!

Going into the bathroom, taking a sH1te, and wiping are three different jobs as well then.

	01-04-2005 22:47									#133
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I guess if Ogie stopped posting about things he knows nothing about, he wouldn't post.

Not a bad thing really..

	01-04-2005 23:35									#134
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I believe I just took a shi1te this morning. Know what, I found something you might be able to use there. Its called a tissue.

	02-04-2005 00:21									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Waaah! Going into the bathroom, taking a sH1te, and wiping are three different jobs as well then.

well played.