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I support the decision to remove Terri's feeding tube because: (Time out:0 days after 31-03-2005, 12:10)
1. Terri is in a permanent vegetative state and has no hope to recover.
2. Terri clearly expressed expressed her wish not to continue living in a permanent vegetative state and we should respect her wish.
3. The supporters of Terri are primarily right wing fundies who are seeking to make a political issue this that would extend to issues other than a right to die, issues such as abortion.
4. The parents of Terri are right wing fundamentalists and should not be supported.
5. Republican politicians like Jeb Bush and President Bush support Terri.
6. Michael Schiavo has a right to get on with his life, he has a new wife and two children.
7. Michael Schiavo, as her husband and legal guardian, has a right to decide this issue.
8. The matter was decided by the courts via due process and we should respect their decision.
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Ned is offline Ned
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I support the decision to remove the feeding tube because:

1. Terri is in a permanent vegetative state and has no hope to recover.

2. Terri clearly expressed expressed her wish not to continue living in a permanent vegetative state and we should respect her wish.

3. The supporters of Terri are primarily right wing fundies who are seeking to make a political issue this that would extend to issues other than a right to die, issues such as abortion.

4. The parents of Terri are right wing fundamentalists and should not be supported.

5. Republican politicians like Jeb Bush and President Bush support Terri.

6. Michael Schiavo has a right to get on with his life, he has a new wife and two children.

7. Michael Schiavo has a right to decide the issue both as her guardian and as her husband.

8. This is a private matter decided by the courts and we should respect their decision arrived at by due process.

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It pisses off Catholics.

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It's too late to put it back anyway.

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She's way too hot:

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This has been downloaded 205 time(s).

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Had a hard time choosing between 7 or 8, but ultimately went with Due Process (since it actually contains the guardian claim as well).

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Ned you should make it a multiple choice poll

alva is offline alva
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Why not multiple choice?

1, 2 , 6, 7 & 8
Mostly 1 or 2 though.

EDIT: added six, read too quickly

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quote:
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She's way too hot:


Ted striker

Ari Rahikkala is offline Ari Rahikkala
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9. All of the above

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I'm back! Pictures later today, from DC and France.

This was in the papers in France, and I'm torn on it. Even in Terris case, as in any human's case, we murder her when we remove the feeding tube. It doesn't matter how much of a vegetable they are, if you kill someone, it is murder. And stranger things have happened than if Terri recovered. There was a man in Arkansas a year? ago who had been in an accident and I'm pretty sure had been in a 20 year coma or something close to being "vegetative" and then just before Valentine's Day he talked.

I didn't get to read much about her in France, but as I understand, they haven't done any x-rays, MRI scans, whatever they need to, on her, why?

Now, on the other hand, Mr. Schiavo is her husband, and if anyone should have the right to decide it, it should be him, and he has made his decision. And the courts have agreed with his decision, so that's that.

BUT she shouldn't be killed by starving her. Even death row inmates aren't starved to death. Give her a lethal injection or something, just not starvation.

And it's only been made worse by how sad it is that our politicians make a political issue out of a woman who has been a vegetable for 15 years. What has America come to, do we not know how to respect a husband's decision? A court's decision? A woman who should by now be dead?

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1 and 6


And Mrmitchell, why didn't you PM me!

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1, 2, and 7

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This should've been multiple choice.

And no, it isn't murder - murder is unlawful malicious killing.

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Where's the poll for those who dont support it?

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The last option. The stuff about POing fundies is just a bonus.

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Ming, can you make this into a multiple choice poll. Most people seem to have more than one reason for supporting the decision.

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The last option. The stuff about POing fundies is just a bonus.


Very true. But just listen to Che for awhile. Or, for that matter, Sava.

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The last option? My opposition is based on two points, one of which is that I dont want 'rights' based on common law ie I want congress to decide, not judges.

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Could you also add,
"I knew she had a right to life. I knew that there was a chance of recovery. But I wanted her to die anyway because it's fun, and murdering the innocent really gets my rocks off"

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1,2, and 8.

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The last choice only. This is a country of laws, not of mobs running arounmd trying to intimidate the rest of us or carry on their singular moralistic crusades. No one is above the law.

The fact I find most "terri" supporters (which is wrong, they are Schindler supporters) to be hypocrites and to carry inherently anti-democratic views is a secondary source of disgust.

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Ming, can you make this into a multiple choice poll. Most people seem to have more than one reason for supporting the decision.


Sorry... can't help you. While we can do edits on polls, we can change a single choice poll to a multiple choice one. Usually, we tell people to just do it again, and we delete the old thread.

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all of the above

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1. the courts decided.
2. the executive branch exceeded its authority.
3. golden rule--in that same position, i'd want to be let go.

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1 2 7 8, but primarily 2,

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5. Republican politicians like Jeb Bush and President Bush support Terri.


They do?

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5. Republican politicians like Jeb Bush and President Bush support Terri.


They do?


Yep, the opportunist scumbags. It'd be nice if we could recall our governor.

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Actually, they support keeping her alive against her will as found by the courts. They don't support her.

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1 2 7 8, but primarily 2,


Then your an idiot. She never "clearly" expressed that she wanted to die.

If she had clearly expressed it, we would have thise circus.

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