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chegitz guevara is offline chegitz guevara
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That's kinda like saying that drinking milk leads to drug use. Religion is ubiquitous, therefore, religious people are the ones most likely to be killed, even if victims are picked completely at random.


Che obviously missed the point.


You right, but now that I look closer, your point was BS.

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Some bulemics are better at hiding it than others. Other times their family is in denial. We don't know. I had some freinds who didn't know their roommate was bulemic until they moved out and discovered garbage bags full of vomit.


Gross!

WHere were they hiding all the garbage bags???

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You right, but now that I look closer, your point was BS.


No need to get pissy just because God and myself are cleverer than you...

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Gross!

WHere were they hiding all the garbage bags???


Bedroom.

And dude, it was grosser than gross, cause of of the bags burst while they were taking it out or so the story goes.

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How did they mask the smell??

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ewwww thats just gross

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Yuk. Maybe I should have waited until my dinner was finished before opening this thread again.

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Yuk. Maybe I should have waited until my dinner was finished before opening this thread again.

no **** dude kinda had to put my dinner out of my sight my self

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"Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Polls leading up to the death of Terri Schiavo made it appear Americans had formed a consensus in favor of ending her life. However, a new Zogby poll with fairer questions shows the nation clearly supporting Terri and her parents and wanting to protect the lives of other disabled patients.

The Zogby poll found that, if a person becomes incapacitated and has not expressed their preference for medical treatment, as in Terri's case, 43 percent say "the law presume that the person wants to live, even if the person is receiving food and water through a tube" while just 30 percent disagree.

Another Zogby question his directly on Terri's circumstances.

"If a disabled person is not terminally ill, not in a coma, and not being kept alive on life support, and they have no written directive, should or should they not be denied food and water," the poll asked.

A whopping 79 percent said the patient should not have food and water taken away while just 9 percent said yes.

"From the very start of this debate, Americans have sat on one of two sides," Concerned Women for America's Lanier Swann said in response to the poll. One side "believes Terri's life has worth and purpose, and the side who saw Michael Schiavo's actions as merciful, and appropriate."

More than three-fourths of Americans agreed, Swann said, "because a person is disabled, that patient should never be denied food and water."

The poll also lent support to members of Congress to who passed legislation seeking to prevent Terri's starvation death and help her parents take their lawsuit to federal courts.

"When there is conflicting evidence on whether or not a patient would want to be on a feeding tube, should elected officials order that a feeding tube be removed or should they order that it remain in place," respondents were asked.

Some 18 percent said the feeding tube should be removed and 42 percent said it should remain in place.

Swann said her group would encourage Congress to adopt legislation that would federal courts to review cases when the medical treatment desire of individuals is not known and the patient's family has a dispute over the care.

"According to these poll results, many Americans do in fact agree with what we're trying to accomplish," she said.

The poll found that 49 percent of Americans believe there should be exceptions to the right of a spouse to act as a guardian for an incapacitated spouse. Only 39 percent disagreed.

When asked directly about Terri's case and told the her estranged husband Michael "has had a girlfriend for 10 years and has two children with her" 56 percent of Americans believed guardianship should have been turned over to Terri's parents while 37 percent disagreed."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375888/posts

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That is so misleading as to be a lie.

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Another Zogby question his directly on Terri's circumstances.

"If a disabled person is not terminally ill, not in a coma, and not being kept alive on life support, and they have no written directive, should or should they not be denied food and water," the poll asked.


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Che, why of course: Lies, pure lies; as in all things that confict with communist propaganda.

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Well, Ramo, are you surprised that most American support Terri when they are given the facts of her circumstances?

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Another Zogby question his directly on Terri's circumstances.

"If a disabled person is not terminally ill, not in a coma, and not being kept alive on life support, and they have no written directive, should or should they not be denied food and water," the poll asked.


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Ned, that description can fit a person with a frickin' broken leg. It doesn't say a single thing about her cerebral cortex being liquified.

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Ned, that description can fit a person with a frickin' broken leg. It doesn't say a single thing about her cerebral cortex being liquified.


True. But the degree of consciousness she had was in dispute. If she had none at all without any dispute on this issue from the parents, I would agree that the balance may and perhaps would shift towards pulling the plug. But, what this poll does show is that the response of the people can be significantly influenced by how the facts of the case are included or excluded from the question.

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Ned believes it was a communists plot to kill Terri to set a path for a fascist take over that will end in the murder of all disabled peopel. That's Nediverse for you.

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anyone notice how paranoid conservatives are? It's not healthy.

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anyone notice how paranoid conservatives are? It's not healthy.


Dis, you definitely have that backwards. The people who see conspiracies behind everything are the left.

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Except, see, it's not the people on the left who think that the whole world is out to destroy those that are Christian, that America is beset on all sides by traitors, and to a lesser extent, terrorists...

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Q, one only has to post here for awhile to see the extreme paranoia of the left. How many times have we seen posts that the Bush leads some kind of corporate conspiracy to take control of Middle Eastern oil for the benefit of the Bush family? According to the likes of Michael Moore, both the first Iraq war and the second was all a big plot by the Bushes. Afghanistan was about an oil pipeline. Etc., etc., etc.

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the second iraq war was a plot by Bush. He planned it even prior to 9/11.

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Ned,

Plotting something and taking opportunity of events are different. Bush isn't smart enough to plot something.

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Except, see, it's not the people on the left who think that the whole world is out to destroy those that are Christian, that America is beset on all sides by traitors, and to a lesser extent, terrorists...


Maybe because on the left are all those people who are out to destroy Christianity, USA and all the other things (perhaps even without knowing it)

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Q, one only has to post here for awhile to see the extreme paranoia of the left. How many times have we seen posts that the Bush leads some kind of corporate conspiracy to take control of Middle Eastern oil for the benefit of the Bush family?


It's not a conspiracy if it's out in the open.

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Except, see, it's not the people on the left who think that the whole world is out to destroy those that are Christian, that America is beset on all sides by traitors, and to a lesser extent, terrorists...


You're right. People on the left think that Christians are out to destroy America, that the world is beset on all sides by a neo-con cabal, and to a lesser extent, Jews...

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anyone notice how paranoid conservatives are? It's not healthy.


Its not confined to conservatives - people at both ends of the political spectrum tends to be off with the fairies and conspiracy believers.

Having worked inside government fairly close to power for a long time, I believe more in screw ups than conspiracies.

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Q, one only has to post here for awhile to see the extreme paranoia of the left. How many times have we seen posts that the Bush leads some kind of corporate conspiracy to take control of Middle Eastern oil for the benefit of the Bush family? According to the likes of Michael Moore, both the first Iraq war and the second was all a big plot by the Bushes. Afghanistan was about an oil pipeline. Etc., etc., etc.


And that excuses the rightist fanatical belief in conspiracies... how?

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I agree with AH, pretty much:

People of all stripes, creeds, affiliations, leanings, and colors can wear the tin foil hat.

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Q, one only has to post here for awhile to see the extreme paranoia of the left. How many times have we seen posts that the Bush leads some kind of corporate conspiracy to take control of Middle Eastern oil for the benefit of the Bush family? According to the likes of Michael Moore, both the first Iraq war and the second was all a big plot by the Bushes. Afghanistan was about an oil pipeline. Etc., etc., etc.


And that excuses the rightist fanatical belief in conspiracies... how?


What rightist conspiracy theories?

 
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