03-04-2005 15:43									#61
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	03-04-2005 15:49									#62
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There are two main starting spots, one in the North and one in the South. For you first game restart until you get the North.

	03-04-2005 19:29									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I'm trying to play colonization, but it's difficult with no manual.

Can't you get the manual from that same place you got Colonization?

quote: There are two main starting spots, one in the North and one in the South.

You mean for the Americas map? I always played on random map... Don't know why really.

	03-04-2005 21:35									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I'm trying to play colonization, but it's difficult with no manual. And I admit, the graphics look a little bit too dated . I don't want to be one of these graphics prudes. It's just hard to make out the terrain. Perhaps I need to change my screen resolution. I get these popups that tell me that this isn't a good place to settle, but all the terrain looks the same to me.

You're using the DOS or the Win version? I've tried both and personally I prefer the DOS version, even the graphics are better for that version.

	03-04-2005 21:47									#65
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quote: Originally posted by vovan You mean for the Americas map? I always played on random map... Don't know why really.

Yeah I meant for the America map. I started there before playing random, and it helped to know the rough whereabouts of nice stuff.

	04-04-2005 00:35									#66
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I dont know why, but I always loved playing the america map!

This thread inspired me to have another crack at Col. A couple of lucky rumours and I got my very own shiny new galeon by the time I had about 10 pop. Im keeping the Indians sweet, and trying to get to the founding fathers I want as quick as I can. Then its Indian smashing time

Many moons ago (no doubt in an old pre-patch pre-internet version) I remember a bug where you could still sell goods in europe even if you held a 'tea party' every time tax was demanded. I tried what I thought the bug was, but cant get it to work

For terrain press 'v' to get the little flashing box up, then click on the terrain. the box on the right will tell you what type itis, then you can look it up in the pedia. I dont know a more graceful way of doing it though

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quote: Originally posted by Snotty Many moons ago (no doubt in an old pre-patch pre-internet version) I remember a bug where you could still sell goods in europe even if you held a 'tea party' every time tax was demanded. I tried what I thought the bug was, but cant get it to work

You had to select the goods and press the key for "Unload" (U?)instead of using the mouse.

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BKeela, do you really mean Intergalactic, like Andromeda and, to some degree I think, Stargate, or Interstellar, like Star Trek, Star Wars, and GalCiv? Intergalactic would be an incredibly grand scale, but sounds interesting. Maybe limit it to the Local Group, but the whole universe could be cool too. Still, the individual galaxies would probably have to be incredibly "small".

	04-04-2005 07:49									#69
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I always played on random maps... half the fun is exploring.

	04-04-2005 09:15									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident hmm, the other problem is I don't actually have the game. Is this abandon ware yet?

I can play it on my old P-1 166, Wins 98. I have SB AWE 32 so I can also hear the music. It will also play TTyc, and TTDLX with music.

The games above will play on my P-3 600 Wins 98 but without sound.

My P-4 1.6 gig, XP will play CTP, and CTP 2, but my new P-4 2.8 XP will not load CTP, and will not play CTP 2.

	05-04-2005 05:55									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident so I take it this game can't run on windows XP? I would like to play it.

It was the bomb back in the early 1990's.

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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor frighteningly, that last part of the paragraph, about the IP thing made me think of the power publishers and how they use+abuse developers IPs.

I don't think "intellectual property" is such a good term because it only confuses things. Copyrights, patents, and trademarks are completely different concepts with completely different treatments. So, please, if you mean copyright, use "copyright."

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	06-04-2005 13:09									#73
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Dissident, you can get manual from that site with stukas.

But playing it doesn't really require a manual if you're familiar with Civ. Just read the pop-up windows and you should be fine. The main difference with Civ is that you'll have to micromanage the production of each "city" by setting them to produce different things in the city window.

	24-05-2005 22:48									#74
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Time for a thread ressurection

In case you haven't seen this yet, Firaxis is having a poll on what game you'd like to see. Colonization 2 is on the list:

http://www.firaxis.com/community/polls.php

At the moment it's winning with 39%

	24-05-2005 22:52									#75
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I added a vote for it too.

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Damn, you were all supposed to vote for SMAC2!

	25-05-2005 00:01									#77
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But I'm not interested in SMAC2
The only reason I like SMAC was because Civ3 didn't have SMACs government model

	25-05-2005 00:36									#78
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We need SMAC2!

	25-05-2005 00:38									#79
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SMAC2!!! SMAC2!!!

	25-05-2005 00:43									#80
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SMAC2!!

and then later they can do Colonization 2.

	25-05-2005 00:53									#81
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That poll is flawed...

quote: 2. What is your gaming platform of choice (aside from the PC)?

None! PC is the only true way. But there is no such answer. So I had to go with handheld, as that is as far from the evil of consoles as it gets from the choices presented.

	25-05-2005 01:21									#82
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Yeah, noticed that. Had to go with handhelds too
When do people learn to make such polls with a "consoles sucks!!!" option

	25-05-2005 01:30									#83
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I went with cell phones, because I have at one time actually played a cell phone game in the last 5 years. Where as I haven't played a console or handheld console in the past 5 years. although, now that I think of it, that's not true. I did play my brother's x-box once.

	25-05-2005 02:00									#84
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I voted for Sid Meiers Gettysburg.

	25-05-2005 02:42									#85
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I went for something new, trying to run on old glory will only get you so far.

	25-05-2005 02:54									#86
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quote: Originally posted by CapTVK I went for something new, trying to run on old glory will only get you so far.

Yes, that's what I voted.

Originality
Remakes

Reusing concepts that worked from such greats as Col or MoM or what-not is one thing, but remaking them... That's just depending on the name to get publicity and that's never a good thing. Get publicity through your own great game design, not through an old game's big name.

	25-05-2005 03:04									#87
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Colonization 2 would be doomed from the start. Why not just play Europa Universalis? I voted for something new. The last thing we need is another shity firaxis grid-game, anyways. They need to get with the times.

	25-05-2005 03:08									#88
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Originality

Though in this case I voted for Colonization 2, even though I haven't really played the first game*
The reason is that I would really love to see a good game that takes place in the time from discovering the new world to... sometime later. There haven't been many good games about this theme for a long time (or maybe I just missed them?)


* kept crashing on my Amiga, and it's always diffecult to get "into" an old game if you haven't played it before

	25-05-2005 03:12									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio Though in this case I voted for Colonization 2, even though I haven't really played the first game* The reason is that I would really love to see a good game that takes place in the time from discovering the new world to... sometime later. There haven't been many good games about this theme for a long time (or maybe I just missed them?)

Europa Universalis 2 and Victoria, or Conquest of the New World and Imperialism if you want something less historic, and older.

	25-05-2005 03:19									#90
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I like Conquest of the New World, but it's interface is getting old
Imperialism and Victoria I've never heard about
EU2 I've tried, but that ones not really what I'm looking for since I prefer starting from scratch instead of starting with an already developed country