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Pat Buchanan cut short an appearance Thursday after a student threw salad dressing on him.

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KALAMAZOO, Michigan (AP) -- Commentator and former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan cut short an appearance after an opponent of his conservative views doused him with salad dressing.

"Stop the bigotry!" the demonstrator shouted as he hurled the liquid Thursday night during the program at Western Michigan University. The incident came just two days after another noted conservative, William Kristol, was struck by a pie during an appearance at a college in Indiana.

After he was hit, Buchanan cut short his question-and-answer session with the audience, saying, "Thank you all for coming, but I'm going to have to get my hair washed."

The demonstrator, identified by authorities as a 24-year-old student at Kalamazoo Valley Community College, was arrested and faces a misdemeanor charge of disturbing the peace. He was released on a $100 cash bond, pending his April 14 arraignment.

"He could have faced a felony assault charge, but Pat Buchanan decided to not press that charge," university spokesman Matt Kurz said.

Buchanan's visit had evoked controversy on campus because it fell on the birthday of the late Mexican-American labor leader Cesar Chavez. Buchanan favors tighter controls on immigration.

Kristol, editor of the influential conservative magazine The Weekly Standard and former chief of staff to Vice President Quayle, was splattered by a student during a speech Tuesday at Earlham College in Richmond, Indiana.

Members of the audience at the Quaker college jeered the student, then applauded as Kristol wiped the pie from his face and said, "Just let me finish this point." Kristol then completed his speech and took questions from the audience.

The student, who was not immediately identified, was suspended and could face expulsion following a disciplinary review, Earlham Provost Len Clark said Wednesday.

Clark also issued a written apology complimenting Kristol for his "graciousness."








That demonstrator is my hero!

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Wow, that's a lot of Jerungdu...

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I feel sorry for the salad dressing... Such a waste!

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Too bad.

If I were Pat Buchanan, I would have grabbed a towel, had the protestor arrested for disturbing the peace, and then continued talking after wiping my head off.

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Why didn't they spray him with bullets?

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Why didn't they spray him with bullets?

Although that would have been good too, the salad dressing allows for a more amusing picture.

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Too bad.

If I were Pat Buchanan, I would have grabbed a towel, had the protestor arrested for disturbing the peace, and then continued talking after wiping my head off.


QFT

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I shall have to remember this date for the significance to Cesar Chavez. Protesters are always welcome at any talks I give.

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Although that would have been good too, the salad dressing allows for a more amusing picture.


The ultimate ***shot.

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This isn't the right way to express your opinions. The demonstrator lowered himself well below even the level of Pat Buchanan -- a difficult thing to do, I think you'll agree.

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I haven't noticed Buchanan to fight dirty in debate. I may not agree with him, but he's a very smart guy.

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a difficult thing to do, I think you'll agree.


How difficult could it be to throw salad dressing at someone?

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Smart, but raising a gun above your head at the Mexican border isn't a kosher speech style, IMO.

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Bah! It wasn't Dorothy Lynch!

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Smart, but raising a gun above your head at the Mexican border isn't a kosher debate style, IMO.


Well, was that in the context of a debate, or just a show?

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This isn't the right way to express your opinions.

There's the right way, the wrong way, and the visually impressive way. Frankly, anyone getting hit by anything edible is funny.

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Well, was that in the context of a debate, or just a show?


I edited the post in the meantime. He was making a speech. A campaign event. It's just not kosher.

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Way to show class


Buchanan gave a speech at my school last October. He was very dignified, answered questions fairly, without rancor, and even the left wing students treated him with respect. In fact, the left wingers applauded his position of a more equitable treatment of Palestinians in the Israel-Palestinian situation. It's a shame that some jackasses don't know how to express their disagreement with someone. I guess that's what you get when you go give a speech at a crappy school.

I think Buchanan gets a bad rap in the media. He's neither Republican nor Democrat, so both sides are free to take swings at him. He's always tarred as an anti-semite because he's on the right. If he were a left winger, his anti-Zionist views would be completely acceptable. Since he's on the right wing, he gets painted as the second Hitler. I'd take Buchanan over W. any day.

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Smart, but raising a gun above your head at the Mexican border isn't a kosher speech style, IMO.


When did this happen?

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anyone else sexually aroused by that picture?

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I'd take Buchanan over W. any day.

What a ringing endorsement.

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Buchanan's a borderline Holocaust denier. Rodney Dangerfield deserves more respect than Buchanan.

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I'd take Buchanan over W. any day.


Then you're an idiot. The man's a fascist, a real fascist.

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Buchanan's a borderline Holocaust denier. Rodney Dangerfield deserves more respect than Buchanan.

Dangerfield

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Buchanan's a borderline Holocaust denier.


That's BS.

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara Then you're an idiot. The man's a fascist, a real fascist.


Again, I call BS.

...and a good way to keep things civil, BTW.

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Buchanan's a borderline Holocaust denier. Rodney Dangerfield deserves more respect than Buchanan.


isn't that the dude out of caddyshack?

funny guy

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That's BS.


No it's not. In the 1980s, Buchanan sent out a newsletter saying that the Nazis couldn't have gassed people at Treblinka.

The way the Nazis killed people was by using mistimed diesel engines, which produced large amounts of carbon monoxide. Well, Pat got it in his head that because some kids survived in a subway with a diesel engine for a number of hours, that the Nazis couldn't have gassed anyone using diesel engines and so he wrote that it didn't happen.

But hey, way to stick up for Buchanan, Wcoff. Next you'll tell us David Irving's okay too.

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...and a good way to keep things civil, BTW.


I don't respect people who support Holocaust deniers.

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This so-called "Holocaust Survivor Syndrome" involves "group fantasies of martyrdom and heroics." Reportedly, half the 20,000 survivor testimonies in Jerusalem are considered "unreliable," not to be used in trials.

Finally, the death engine. During the war, the underground government of the Warsaw Ghetto reported to London that the Jews of Treblinka were being electrocuted and steamed to death.

The Israeli court, however, concluded the murder weapon for 850,000 was the diesel engine from a Soviet tank which drove its exhaust into the death chamber. All died in 20 minutes, Finkelstein swore in 1945.

The problem is: Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody. In 1988, 97 kids, trapped 400 feet underground in a Washington, D.C., tunnel while two locomotives spewed diesel exhaust into the car, emerged unharmed after 45 minutes.


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Buchanan's source was almost certainly the July 1988 issue of a small (six-page) pamphlet: the G.I.E.A. Newsletter of the German American Information and Education Association (P.O. Box 23169, Washington D.C., 20026). The agenda of this newsletter becomes clear on page two:

The May Newsletter which discusses the Holocaust Museum continues to generate the greatest response. Approximately 95% of the response has been favorable; 5% negative. Evidently, that museum has a lot of people stirred up. It is obvious that the issue that sticks in the craw of so many is the hypocrisy blatantly displayed and practiced by the American Jewish community.

It is very clear that if enough people would write their senators and congressman [sic], and demand that rooms be set aside for other holocausts, something could be accomplished. Write them and point out that the German people were "holocausted" after WW II, especially by the Bolshevics, originally a Jewish/Zionist movement…



I am not aware of this May 13, 1988 article being cited in any Holocaust-denial material other than this newsletter. It looks, therefore, suspiciously like it was this newsletter that Buchanan received in the mail and, accepting its claims as true, reprinted them in his nationally-syndicated column.

 
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