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Dec 2001 time: 00:33
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse
My hope is that it's fickle separatism that will peter out pretty quickly. |
I think it is. A bunch of soft nationalists, pissed at the Libs because of Adscam, who have been given a way to let out some steam.
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Dec 2001 time: 00:33
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse
We need to keep piling the immigrants in. They hate separatists. |
Why bother. Give up the charade and just pull a 1755 on us...
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joncha
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North of FOPOG
Jan 2003 time: 21:33
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From the CBC
Cadman the man in the middle
Last updated Apr 28 2005 02:31 PM PDT
CBC News
quote: VANCOUVER – In a major switch, Independent Surrey-North MP Chuck Cadman says he's now considering voting to support Prime Minister Paul Martin's minority government in a non-confidence vote next month.
Cadman is one of three Independent MPs in the House of Commons, and his vote could keep the Liberal government in power.
The Liberals have 131 MPs and the Speaker, who votes to break ties. With the support of the 19 New Democrats, the Liberals would have 150 votes in the 308-seat House of Commons.
With the support of the three Independents, the Liberal government would have 153 votes.
The Conservatives and Bloc Quebecois have a total of 153 votes, but two Conservative MPs who are battling cancer may not be able to show up for the vote.
On Monday, Cadman had said he was planning to vote against the Liberals and force an election – saying that was what his constituents wanted him to do.
But he says since then he's received about 80 e-mails and phone calls from constituents who don't want a snap election, calling on Cadman to vote with the government.
"That certainly has to be the way that I'm considering leaning. I will have to consider my own views at some point, but that becomes secondary to the constituents," he says.
"And if I feel there's a good representation and a good consensus of constituents that want me to vote a certain way then I'm obligated to do that."
There have been reports that Prime Minister Martin is planning to talk with Cadman to try to convince him to support the Liberal government. But the Surrey MP says he hasn't heard from the PM.
He also says his constituents' opinions will hold more weight than anything that Martin might have to say.
"I don't like the idea of making deals. It's not my style. And it's not a matter of what it's going to take to convince me. Again I have to go back to what I'm hearing from people here in Surrey-North. That's basically what matters."
Cadman says he will continue to monitor e-mails and calls from his constituents up until the non-confidence vote is taken on May 18. |
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Aug 2001 time: 22:33
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What does a Liberal mean by responsiblility? Do they mean 'I did it, I admit it, now you have to let me off without penalty because I said I was responsible'?
quote: Chretien repeats apology for sponsorship mistakes
CTV.ca News Staff
Former prime minister Jean Chretien apologized Friday night for mistakes that were made during the sponsorship program, and said he takes full responsibility.
Chretien, in Philadelphia to collect an award for supporting same-sex marriage when he was prime minister, made his first public statement on the sponsorship scandal since his February testimony at the Gomery commission.
Chretien refused to share his thoughts on how beleaguered Prime Minister Paul Martin is handling the firestorm caused by the scandal. But he did say he still supports the Liberal party.
"I am a Liberal and if there's an election, I will vote Liberal with pleasure,'' he told reporters.
Chretien has made few public appearances since his testimony before Judge Gomery. He has denied knowledge of any misspending under the sponsorship program, in which $100 million in federal advertising funds were allegedly funneled to Liberal party supporters for little or no work.
The former prime minister reminded reporters that he already apologized for the mistakes at his appearance before the Gomery inquiry.
"Did you read my statement?" he asked angrily. "In my statement, I said I was sorry if mistakes were made, and I said I have to take the full responsibility of what's good and what's bad when you're the prime minister.''
He said the program was good for the country, and that those who abused it deserve to be punished.
"These people betrayed the nation, betrayed the government and myself."
Chretien then reminded reporters that he notified police in March, 2002, upon discovering what was happening with the program, adding that "the first case was in front of the court before I left, and even before . . . the auditor general's report.''
Advertising executive Paul Coffin, who testified at the inquiry this week, was the first to be charged in the affair.
In spite of his assertion for the need to punish those responsible, Chretien is appealing to the Federal Court to remove Justice Gomery as head of the inquiry.
Chretien has alleged that Gomery is biased and unable to deliver an impartial evaluation of the his role in the sponsorship affair.
Chretien's challenge is expected to be heard in Federal Court on June 7. If his action is successful, it could delay or block Gomery's commission report, due out at the end of the year.
Martin has said he will fight to keep Gomery as head of the commission.
With files from The Canadian Press |
Well, if Mr Chretien is so responsible, perhaps we can expect the RCMP to be knocking on his door someday soon.
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Dec 2001 time: 00:33
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I'm half Québecois, you know... |
That's a strange statement. I thought you were from Montreal.
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Gatineau
Dec 2001 time: 00:33
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Move on about the Plains of Abraham already. It's not like Canada mistreats Quebec nowadays, despite the whinings of a few Albertans... |
Who said anything about that?
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The Great State Of Insanity
Jan 2000 time: 05:33
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Canadians (and Ontario has to shoulder a large part of the blame) have shown they are quite willing to put up with Liberal corruption in the past because they have bought into the Liberal scare mongering hook, line and sinker and I see nothing to suggest that things will change any time soon.
NYE - by "things getting ugly real fast" are you talking seperation (either Quebec and/or Western Canada) if the Liberals are re-elected (with either a minority or majority)? And if so, do you think most Canadians realize the stakes are that high?
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