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Jaguar is offline Jaguar
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I say "Card Sharp."

Clearly this question is very important.

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shark

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shark. Or in Finnish, Korttihai.

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Pekka

I've never even heard of "card sharp" before, but I guess it's a bastardisation of "card shark" that has become so common it's as valid as the original.

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Pekka

I've never even heard of "card sharp" before, but I guess it's a bastardisation of "card shark" that has become so common it's as valid as the original.

Lies! It's the other way around!

Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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Well, it's possible "sharp" got bastardised first and only then did we steal it as "shark".

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Jaguar, we win by default. Sorry. That's just the way it is. Oh and that means you lose. And that you were also wrong.

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If you do not concede now, I'll ask about your "undefeated" record of 4-2-1.

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Saying card sharp is like saying supposably or doctorial or libary or some other equally ignorant bastardization of the english language.

It's CARD SHARK!

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Both are acceptable.

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Card Harp

Maquiladora is offline Maquiladora
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Never heard sharp being used.

This reminds me of an arguement i was having once about the beer "Coors", he kept saying it was "Cools", presumably because of their logo, its sometimes hard to tell. Sufficed to say, I milked it once he knew he was wrong.

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sharp, because it's slightly antiquated.

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Sharp is never used, it's always Shark.

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It's a bit sad when everyone disagrees with the OP, adn especially when someone from the other side of the world, close to tundra tells you like it is. I'd be pretty embarrased personally if I was that person..

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I prefer 'sharp' because that makes it 5-5.

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Card Sharp, because Jaguar says so.

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Crap. I didn't think about that. Kidiverse is turned on it's head because I agreed with Jaguar.

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Card Sharp, according to Wikipaedia

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SPRING BREAK CARD SHARK ATTACK

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I am currently in debate with a very dear, sweet lady who insists that the term card shark is, in fact, a modern misnomer for the term card sharp. My grandfather was a blackjack dealer maaaaaany years ago and he insists (and I believe him) that the term card shark is in fact the original term for someone who preyed on those of lesser skill.

Considering that some persons have "preyed on those of lesser skill" since the very invention of games of chance, your grandfather must be of an extremely venerable antiquity if he remembers "the original term". If I were you, I would start buying flowers. The earliest (1859) written version of the phrase was card sharper. As card sharp occurs in several of our dictionaries and card shark in none of them, I would suggest that the latter form is merely, as the "very dear, sweet lady" said, a modern mis-hearing of card sharp, possibly influenced by loan-shark.


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I say "Card Sharp."

Clearly this question is very important.


By the way, the act of determining the history and origins of words is etymology.

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Etymology It's great for learning the vocabulary of another language, because there's often an interesting story behind a word. It may also mean something completely different in another language.

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What the hell? How can 'shark' be winning now? UR found 'sharp' in the dictionary, and even Jaguar and I agree.

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Card sharp.

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Great, now I agree with BK. You suck, Jaguar.

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Card Fart

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It's Card Sharp.

Sad that so many people think it's shark, and that even other languages stole the wrong one.

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sharp? You people are high.

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'Card shark' makes me think someone is a hustling card player.
'Card sharp' makes me think someone is a skilful card player.

There, they can both mean something, and both mean something different.

 
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