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Hope you guy's win the whole thing.

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heh, and if Liverpool win, Everton won't get in the CL even if they finish 4th.. Now that'd make a lot Reds I know quite happy

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Every team is of the fans, no matter how much money the club has, if the fans dont show up theres no reason for it to even exist anymore, even besides all the gate receipts.


There's a difference between showing up for matches and buying merchandise and completely running the club and being involved in every aspect of it...

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So theyre all foreign players but theyre playing for the club you support, so you support them, you dont turn your back on them because they dont move their whole family into town, or get to know you personally.


Yup, just the type of thing a people's club like FC Twente doesn't need...

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It is afterall only their job


Well, that's the problem right there. If any player ever thinks that the thing they do, which millions of people would kill for to do as well, is 'just a job', I don't want him anywhere NEAR my FC Twente...

Having healthy ambitions is one thing, and I don't mind players moving on to big clubs when the time is right, but even in football there's such a thing as loyalty...

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Good play by Liverpool, but I think their run ends with Chelsea. Mourinho wants to win the whole hting again.

Oh, and LoA, Adu's background has checked and rechecked. He ain't 17 or 18, he's 16 right now. Conspirary theories without any facts behind them may convince you, but they don't work for everyone.

Oh, and my speculation on the MLS is at least based on correlation. You got nothing.

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Oh, and LoA, Adu's background has checked and rechecked. He ain't 17 or 18, he's 16 right now. Conspirary theories without any facts behind them may convince you, but they don't work for everyone.


uh huh. when he first broke into the league, he looked like a man. do you know any 15 year old who looked comparable to him? nope. add to it the fact that in some african countries they underestimate their birth year by two or three, and thats how we know hes not 15. officially yes, in reality, hes a few years older.

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Um... no he didn't. What men do you hang around. Even today, Adu looks like a 15 year old. He looks like a freaking kid, LoA! Look how small he was in D.C. last year and compared to other U-17s.

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Um... no he didn't. What men do you hang around. Even today, Adu looks like a 15 year old. He looks like a freaking kid, LoA! Look at his face!


yep, i saw it when he broke into the league and was '15' and thats not the face of a 15 year old. maybe there are some chemical plants in NJ that screw up the people living there, but a 15 year old doesnt look anything like that. he looked 17, maybe 18.

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Football hooligans

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Adu in the U-17 tourney:

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yep, i saw it when he broke into the league and was '15' and thats not the face of a 15 year old. maybe there are some chemical plants in NJ that screw up the people living there, but a 15 year old doesnt look anything like that. he looked 17, maybe 18.


I guess maybe your men look like boys then, because Adu looks like a 16 year old. He doesn't look like a 17 or 18 year even now!

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Adu in the U-17 tourney:


aaaahh, the strategic lawyer trick - choosing a photo thats too small to see, but telling everyone whats there anyways without letting anyone else see it "b"

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I guess maybe your men look like boys then, because Adu looks like a 16 year old. He doesn't look like a 17 or 18 year even now!


15 year olds are not men. thats the point. 17, 18 year olds are. therefore, 15 year olds shouldnt look like men.

i rest my case.

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choosing a photo thats too small to see


What are you blind?! It's 137 by 190. Decrease your resolution or something!

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15 year olds are not men. thats the point. 17, 18 year olds are. therefore, 15 year olds shouldnt look like men.


And he doesn't. Unless the men in your area look like boys (btw, they aren't supposed to look like boys, which is what Adu looks like)

You rest your case while losing, that's great

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Interesting article I thought:

http://www.football365.com/news/story_149368.shtml

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Inter Milan's shameful record of hooligan activity means the Italian club is in danger of becoming the first club to be kicked out of the Champions League.

UEFA's disciplinary panel meets on Friday to pass judgement on the derby quarter-final at the San Siro which was abandoned after AC Milan's goalkeeper Dida was struck and burned by a flare thrown during a barrage of missiles from Inter fans.

The disciplinary body will look at the club's record over the previous five years and take into account that in 2001 Inter were ordered to play two European home matches away from the San Siro and fined #35,000 (75,000 Swiss francs) after similar crowd trouble at their UEFA Cup tie with Spanish side Alaves.

There is a precedent for expulsion too after Fiorentina, another Italian club, were thrown out of the UEFA Cup in 1998 after a home-made explosive device hurled from the crowd during the match against Swiss side Grasshopper injured the fourth official and caused the match to be abandoned.

One very senior UEFA figure told the Press Association: "My guess is that Internazionale are close to being expelled from next season's competition and will need some very powerful mitigating factors to avoid such a ban.''


Will Inter become the first club to be kicked out the CL? Heysel led to all English clubs being banned from European competition for 5 years. I think that Inter should at least be banned from Europe for a year or two due to its shameful display.

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What are you blind?! It's 137 by 190. Decrease your resolution or something!


of which 1 pixel by 1 pixel shows his face

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And he doesn't. Unless the men in your area look like boys (btw, they aren't supposed to look like boys, which is what Adu looks like)


nope, for the second time, the men in my area look like men, the boys look like boys. fredu adu looks like a man, therefore, he is a man, and couldnt possibly be 15.

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why dont euro stadiums check bags for flares, and batteries.

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Get some glasses... Adu looks like a boy.

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Get some glasses... Adu looks like a boy.



no need, i have perfect vision!!!

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Apparently not.

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There's a difference between showing up for matches and buying merchandise and completely running the club and being involved in every aspect of it...


So that makes the latter better than the former? I dont see the big deal in fans running "every aspect", what are all these aspects that are better run by the fans than by anyone else?

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Well, that's the problem right there. If any player ever thinks that the thing they do, which millions of people would kill for to do as well, is 'just a job', I don't want him anywhere NEAR my FC Twente...

Having healthy ambitions is one thing, and I don't mind players moving on to big clubs when the time is right, but even in football there's such a thing as loyalty...


Exactly what I said, there is room for loyalty. I can assure you that every player approaches each game as a job to do, and if they dont and go strolling out there thinking its just a game then theyre in the wrong place, they should be playing for a pub team.

But even if a player would still say its only a job for them what more do you want from them? Theyre running their balls off for your club and taking it probably more seriously than other local players who coast through a game because theyre local they know theyre a shoo-in to get picked next game. Who cares what a players motivation is if theyre doing enough on the pitch.

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Way to go, Liverpool!

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Why do Europeans routinely carry around flares?

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heh, and if Liverpool win, Everton won't get in the CL even if they finish 4th.. Now that'd make a lot Reds I know quite happy


It's up to the FA, Everton get the place unless the FA choose not to give it to them. Personally I think that'd be very harsh but it seems to be every Liverpool fan's wet dream, win the Champs league, finish 5th and get put into the champions league anyway at the expense of Everton.

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Dunno, you'd never get that into English stadium i think. Only been to a few premiership games, but your bags get checked, you get patted down etc. In southern europe it seems to be slightly less stringent.

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Seen it all now...an american buggin us on why we carry flares...

It's our birthright!!!

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....WAY TO GO PSV....and now only AZ has to win and we are heading for some good times

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Dunno, you'd never get that into English stadium i think. Only been to a few premiership games, but your bags get checked, you get patted down etc. In southern europe it seems to be slightly less stringent.

I've never been patted down at a football match but I've never taken a bag either so I don't know if they check those. Probably.

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Seen it all now...an american buggin us on why we carry flares...

It's our birthright!!!


The correct response would be so that you could send up an SOS if confronted by a tourist from Florida.

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Hmm it's been awhile since i last went (98 iirc), think that was during the big clampdown. Both at Stamford Bridge and The Valley I got frisked. Same at Twickenham for rugby games btw, though tbh i think they're more worried that you don't buy your beer from their stands but bring it yuorself :P

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It's up to the FA, Everton get the place unless the FA choose not to give it to them. Personally I think that'd be very harsh but it seems to be every Liverpool fan's wet dream, win the Champs league, finish 5th and get put into the champions league anyway at the expense of Everton.


There is a precedent set (although admittedly with the Spanish FA) with Madrid a few years back, they finished third in La Liga but won the CL and were given the second Spanish qualifying spot (when Spain were only given two).

Thats all for the future though....hopefully

 
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