08-04-2005 00:11									#61
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I'm far more interested in gaming and reference books than onscreen stuff, and anyway, Star Wars will likely continue on television shortly and I'm sure Trek will be back on screen eventually. And really, I think if I do give up SW and / or ST, I think it will be replaced by more constructive things, like history, linguistics, and genealogy, or maybe just Civ games.

B5 I'd have to do a lot of catching up for, would I not? I know they recap, but still it's all much more connected than Trek.

SF and Fantasy do mix, as much as I might hate to admit it.

Foundation: started on the first book long ago, didn't get far. Why can't they just publish the Encuclopedia Galactica instead of novels, or at least separate from? An official chronology book would be good, a star atlas...

How does wizards not mean fantasy?

I wonder what you think of Ender's Game.

I like the 2001 and 2010 movies and the 2061 book. Haven't read 3001 or Rama.

Back to the Future is good, and yes, I think of as SF before Comedy.

	08-04-2005 00:12									#62
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B5 PWNS, as does BSG. Stargåte ain't too shabby either. And Farscape is entertaining.

More scifi!!!


Save ENT!!!

	08-04-2005 00:13									#63
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They claimed Enterprise wouldn't do technobabble, but it did anyway.

	08-04-2005 01:40									#64
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There... Are... FOUR... Lights!

	08-04-2005 02:00									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko hmmmm

anybody else ever wonder why Chewbacca doesn't have a penis?

	08-04-2005 02:06									#66
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I like technobabble.

	08-04-2005 02:48									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident anybody else ever wonder why Chewbacca doesn't have a penis?

He's a she. You should see what male wookies are like. They won't even let them leave their own planet.

	08-04-2005 03:45									#68
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Star Trek TNG> Star Wars

At least Star Trek is interesting...

IMO, A New Hope was great and Empire Strikes Back was awesome. I thought Jedi sucked (stupid Ewoks), and the series has gone down hill from there. I do have some hope for the upcoming Star Wars movie, though. If done correctly, it's dark tone could bring it to the level of ESB. Unfortunately, if the last two movies are any indication, Lucas won't be able to do it well. The guy who plays Anakin is terrible, and did much to ruin the last movie.

	08-04-2005 04:10									#69
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Maybe next time Lucas does some editing he'll replace Anakin. With DiCaprio? Not an improvement IMO.

	08-04-2005 04:12									#70
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he needs to replace himself with a competant director.

But it's too late. The film is already completed.

	08-04-2005 04:13									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Brent Maybe next time Lucas does some editing he'll replace Anakin. With DiCaprio? Not an improvement IMO.

Both of those guys are too skinny to be Darth Vader. Lucas should have casted a guy who was about 6 foot 3 and about 240 pounds for the Anakin role. After all, Vader was played by a 6'6"body builder in the first series.

	08-04-2005 04:17									#72
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not too many actors that large. except maybe Vin Diesal or the Rock. Of course, they couldn't be any worse than Hayden's acting.

	08-04-2005 04:21									#73
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SW completely ruined! Burn all copies of all six movies!

	08-04-2005 04:25									#74
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I'll give you one reason why star wars is inferior to star trek. Star trek has never had anything like this:

http://www.lucasfan.com/swtv/index2.html

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75 posts. Too bad my religion threads didn't last like this.

	08-04-2005 04:47									#76
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one more, I can't resist.

	08-04-2005 04:54									#77
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Wha???

	08-04-2005 04:57									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident not too many actors that large. except maybe Vin Diesal or the Rock. Of course, they couldn't be any worse than Hayden's acting.

Rock is way bigger than 6'3" 240; I think he's 6'5" 300+ or something.

6'2"-6' 3," 225-245 is big, but it's not so huge that it'd be impractical to cast. I bet there are plenty of actors that big, just not overly famous. Regardless, they'd be hard pressed to do worse than Hayden.

	08-04-2005 05:02									#79
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The Vadernator will Pump You Up!

	08-04-2005 05:29									#80
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Star Wars is NOT Science Fiction, it is a mythical story using robots and spaceships instead of the basic fantasy fare.

Still sci-fi.

	08-04-2005 06:23									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Still sci-fi.

	08-04-2005 06:57									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Brent Wha???

you aren't a true star wars fan unless you have seen the star wars holiday special.

	08-04-2005 07:24									#83
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Actually, I think Friday the 13th is more popular than LoTR.

	08-04-2005 07:28									#84
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Actually, I think Friday the 13th is more popular than LoTR.

No way. The movies alone grossed billions, and there must be billions more in book sales, and billions more in marketing/liscensing/toys/video games, etc.. Friday 13th comes nowhere close.

	08-04-2005 07:32									#85
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Money does not equal popularity.... I think you would find that Friday the 13th is more widely reconized than LoTR.

	08-04-2005 07:42									#86
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money does equal popularity. Because the more money it made, means the more people that have seen it. Unless it can be proven there are a lot of repeat viewings.

	08-04-2005 07:48									#87
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Money does not equal popularity.... I think you would find that Friday the 13th is more widely reconized than LoTR.

You are deluded if you believe that.. or even if you seriously entertain such a notion.

	08-04-2005 08:10									#88
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Too young to have seen the Holiday Special, but my parents do have a Christmas Carol book including "What can you get a Wookiee for Christmas (when he already owns a comb)" and R2D2 We Wish You a Merry Christmas".

LotR is older, spread around in a wider variety of products, and otherwise obviously more worthwhile than Friday the 13th. And best of all it has constructed languages! Not to mention maps. And it's influenced other major entertainment franchises deeply. And it's based in things that are more timeless.

	08-04-2005 20:53									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Still sci-fi.

NO, its space fantasy.

Heathen.

	08-04-2005 20:59									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui You are deluded if you believe that.. or even if you seriously entertain such a notion.

Friday the 13th has been entrenched in pop culture for decades.