07-04-2005 20:06									#1
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I wished to send a private message to each contributer of the Civ4 list to ask if they permit the inclusion of what they wrote in the wiki-list. I have the list of nicknames, but it'd be veeery long to send each one, one by one. Is it possible, in some way, to send all of them a pm (or email or whattever) all at once?? I don't know... puting each name separated by ";" or something??

Ming said there is something about buddy list permitting to help but it might not be the best, I don't know how efficiently it would work and... *cries* I have no buddies anyway.

Solutions anyone? Anything to help? It's 183 persons, so...

	08-04-2005 00:38									#2
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If you add all the users you want to PM to your buddy list you can PM them all at once. But you have to add them manually so... The easiest thing would be to start a thread about it in the Civ 4 forum and hope that people will read it and respond.

	08-04-2005 00:45									#3
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The buddy list is useable but arduous (though less so than PMing them all, especially if you have the flood control.

A group PM feature would be a nice addition Mark.

	08-04-2005 06:44									#4
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Only for Subscribers or Custom-avatar users though. The last thing we want is mass PM-spam by pornbot. :shudder:

	08-04-2005 06:46									#5
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PMing buddies allows you to PM up to 5 people at once. You will of course have to make every single contributor your buddy too, all 183 people.

Subscribing to PLUS allows you to send PMs without waiting 90 seconds per PM. You can send them as fast as you can make them (abuse of which isn't recommended).

These are the only things that can help you under the current system.

	08-04-2005 14:32									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns These are the only things that can help you under the current system.

Ok, so if I understand you well, the best solution is a revolution by mass-Pm-ing Mark? Great, I'll get PLUS!

	08-04-2005 14:38									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns PMing buddies allows you to PM up to 5 people at once. You will of course have to make every single contributor your buddy too, all 183 people. Subscribing to PLUS allows you to send PMs without waiting 90 seconds per PM. You can send them as fast as you can make them (abuse of which isn't recommended). These are the only things that can help you under the current system.

Only 5 at a time? Damn, thatīs few. But itīs with good intentions I guess...

	08-04-2005 17:36									#8
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With good intentions indeed. The forums are already being harassed by spambots. It's only a matter of time before they discover PM...

If you want to send out a message to a large number of people, email is the best way to go.

	08-04-2005 21:12									#9
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Well, I have no friends here, so Iīm not PM-ing much. Iīm just trying to act like a know stuff

	08-04-2005 22:05									#10
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Why don't you just set up a mailing list?

	08-04-2005 23:28									#11
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People don't want spam.

	09-04-2005 03:29									#12
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And it includes collecting all 183 e-mail adresses and manually registering them on the mailing list. Itīs a ***** whichever way you go

	09-04-2005 13:36									#13
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You don't need to do that. Set up a lista nd get those who want tor eceive the mail to subscribe themselves. When they ***** about not knowing somthing point them in the direction of subscribing to the list.

	09-04-2005 15:46									#14
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But AFAIK this is a one-time event. Not an ongoing one. He needs to contact each and every one and get their approval. He could do this by posting a thread in the Civ 4 forum, but why go the detour of mail or PM if they can leave their approval right there, in the thread?

The problem is still that each and everyone needs to be contacted...

	09-04-2005 17:41									#15
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Even better assume they give their approval unless they post that they don't in your thread.

	09-04-2005 17:50									#16
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That is probably the best way to do it. Add a disclaimer and link to the thread at the bottom of the text and you are covered, doing the right thing by everyone and don't have to waste as much effort.

	09-04-2005 18:02									#17
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I knew you'd approve.

	09-04-2005 18:04									#18
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Yeah, force them to opt-out, instead of giving them the opportunity to opt-in. Works every time

Asmodean

	09-04-2005 18:31									#19
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I did put a thread, but guess what? THREE persons out of a HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX actually answered

Okay, I did expected that not each of the 186 would come and write "Yes, no problem. Bye and thx" while stumbling on a thread asking their answer, but I did not expect such a low level of non-participation... Even being used to see how participation demands a high "returns" ($$, product, etc.) expectancy, I expected more.

3 out of 186...
Oh, yes... I'm the fourth



Now about this thing for opting OUT, it does make some sense... Especially for people who willingly brought the ideas explicitly to make so that they are shared. But I still wanted to offer the possibility to opt out if they didn't wanted their ideas to be reformulated, modified and so on as in wikis, since they did it for the Civ4 list (not CivX WIKI-list). I know very well that if I propose them to "opt-out", the level of participation wont be higher so all I could do is to say "Well... if you want to get out send a msg".

lajzar didn't changed his website's "You can't reformulate others' ideas in this wiki" yet as he said me he would though... [implicit pressure here, lajzar ] But keeping nicks of those who put some work into something still can keep its importance (should it be keeping the main originators in parallel to the wiki, in brackets).

Last edited by Trifna on 09-04-2005 at 18:40

	10-04-2005 02:30									#20
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Well, judging by the extremely meager number of answers Iīd say that itīs probaly pretty safe to include the wiki list. One could argue that theyīve had their chance to object. Right?

	10-04-2005 02:54									#21
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I'd have done it already.

	10-04-2005 02:59									#22
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Yes, stop beating around the bush and do it already

	10-04-2005 03:03									#23
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What are you trying to do anyway?

	10-04-2005 03:09									#24
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You didnīt read the first post?

	10-04-2005 03:50									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna I did put a thread, but guess what? THREE persons out of a HUNDRED EIGHTY SIX actually answered

The list has been contributed to for over a year now. People's posting habits change, and the fact that the only mention of the thread (besides the post I am quoting) is in the Civ4 forum means only people who are still contributing will ever see it. If you insist on going via the opt-in route, you will at the very least need to advertise the thread in your signature - and probably as the only item in your signature if you expect people to notice it.

	10-04-2005 04:07									#26
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And that still wont work, so it's not worth it.

	10-04-2005 04:45									#27
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Isn't that thread title a little vague even for people actually visiting that forum? If you desparately need a reaction from everyone, the thread title should indicate that. Only the fanatic people reading all threads in the Civ4 forum (or stumbling upon it through this one) would notice...

Add to that, I can't even remember if I've contributed anything. I think I posted some things a long time ago that had to do with Civ4, but I don't even know if that's part of any sort of "list". Am I on your list of nicknames?

	10-04-2005 11:46									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Kamrat X You didnīt read the first post?

Reading the whole threa dis for wimps. Like I have time for that!

	10-04-2005 12:13									#29
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Well then, thanks for your fine contribution. Very much appreciated.

	10-04-2005 14:01									#30
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At least Skanky reads threads before he posts.