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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
time: 00:18
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There were revolutions in the West. The difference is that the capitalist states were strong enough to survive or the workers were too timid or naive to press their advantage. There were revolutions in: Germany, Italy, Spain, Finland, and France. Some countries came very close: The United States and Great Britain. The thing is, however, a chain breaks at its weakest link, not its strongest.
Regardless of how one feels about Lenin, his central thesis that the working class needs a cadre of professional revolutionaries to carry out the tasks of revolution has been proven by history. Workers generally do not recognize the dangers or opportunities they face. The workers have only come to power twice without the aid of a revolutionary party, and in two of those cases, they were overthrown by the capitalists within months. The workers of Bolivia did overthrow the government in 1952, but they did not take power, but instead allowed the liberal bourgeoisie to create a new government. It was overthrown twelve years later, which is why Che Guevara went to Bolivia.
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jsorense
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Alta California, USA
Dec 1999
time: 05:18
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quote:
Originally posted by chegitz guevara The workers of Bolivia did overthrow the government in 1952, but they did not take power, but instead allowed the liberal bourgeoisie to create a new government. It was overthrown twelve years later, which is why Che Guevara went to Bolivia. |
Well two comments here, Comrade Guevara was encouraged to leave Cuba because he was a pain in the ass and he failed in Bolivia because some liberal land reforms had already been enforced. Face it, he was a dick that just looked great in a beret. 
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JohnT
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Capitalist
Mar 1999
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quote:
Originally posted by Kidicious
I know you have no real idea what Marxism is, but this statement is so bizarre that I wonder if you even know what religion is. |
Well, what does Communism and Christianity have in common?
1. Both promise a Utopian tomorrow: heaven vs. the classless society.
2. Both act as a moral and temporal force upon millions (or billions).
3. Both have laid the theoretical foundations for a vast amount of increasingly grandiose (but rational!) poppycock and bullshit.
4. Both have acted detrimentally and positively towards billions of people.
5. Both claim to be for the "people", the oppressed, the meek that are to inherit the Earth. See #1.
6. Both get hijacked by the rich, the powerful, the controlling, even the sadistic. See #5, #1.
7. Both were founded by a theoretician (or theologian, as Jesus would be more accurately described), but then were firmly established by leaders of great States: Jesus had his Constantine, Marx had his Lenin.
8. Large swaths of the globe are completely unaware of the ideological and theological issues that torment Communists and Christians. Couldn't give a ****, really.
9. Both are growing increasingly irrelevant to the modern sections of our civilization.
And on and on, even down to the coincidental fact that both movements were founded by Jews.
Yeah, it's a religion.
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