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Gatekeeper
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United States of America
Feb 2000
time: 23:17
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Everyone:
I live in the Upper Midwest.
A month or so ago, an Iowa girl vanished. Her body turned up some time later. Turns out she had been raped and then killed. The alleged perpetrator is in custody — a white man. Tonight, a South Dakota girl vanished. Eight years old. They found her body a few hours ago — raped, then killed, allegedly by a 41-year-old white man. Her grandmother's boyfriend.
I've had it. From now on, screw "rehabilitating" pedophiles. It's time they were locked up in solitary confinement and never released back into society. They're the worst re-offenders I've ever seen. Pedophiles are an ABOMINATION if there ever was one. It's time to put a tracking chip under their skin and ship them off to permanent confinement.
I've got a special place for them: Put a high-security supermax prison deep in the Arctic, make it so each cell is windowless (or looks out only onto an icy, snowy windswept ice sheet) and designed for solitary confinement. Assign a skeleton staff to the facility at double or triple pay. Stock the area with polar bears. And let it be known that if an inmate escapes, s/he is simply left to die on the ice, or becomes bear meat.
I consider myself a moderate ... but, by God, pedophiles bring out the worst in me. We all harbor darkness, we all have triggers that can bring it to the surface. Pedophiles are my trigger. I find it *damn* hard to have an iota of sympathy for the men and women — and I use that term loosely — who prey upon the most helpless members of our societies.
Gatekeeper
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trev
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Adelaide, Australia
Feb 2003
time: 14:47
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Better to put them in a pit, supply stones to the people at the top and have them killed, a dead person cannot repeat their offence
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Gatekeeper
A month or so ago, an Iowa girl vanished. Her body turned up some time later. Turns out she had been raped and then killed. The alleged perpetrator is in custody — a white man. Tonight, a South Dakota girl vanished. Eight years old. They found her body a few hours ago — raped, then killed, allegedly by a 41-year-old white man. Her grandmother's boyfriend.
I've had it. From now on, screw "rehabilitating" pedophiles. |
Are the above examples of prior convicted sex offenders?
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Dis
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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Gatekeeper
Everyone:
I live in the Upper Midwest.
A month or so ago, an Iowa girl vanished. Her body turned up some time later. Turns out she had been raped and then killed. The alleged perpetrator is in custody — a white man. Tonight, a South Dakota girl vanished. Eight years old. They found her body a few hours ago — raped, then killed, allegedly by a 41-year-old white man. Her grandmother's boyfriend.
I've had it. From now on, screw "rehabilitating" pedophiles. It's time they were locked up in solitary confinement and never released back into society. They're the worst re-offenders I've ever seen. Pedophiles are an ABOMINATION if there ever was one. It's time to put a tracking chip under their skin and ship them off to permanent confinement.
I've got a special place for them: Put a high-security supermax prison deep in the Arctic, make it so each cell is windowless (or looks out only onto an icy, snowy windswept ice sheet) and designed for solitary confinement. Assign a skeleton staff to the facility at double or triple pay. Stock the area with polar bears. And let it be known that if an inmate escapes, s/he is simply left to die on the ice, or becomes bear meat.
I consider myself a moderate ... but, by God, pedophiles bring out the worst in me. We all harbor darkness, we all have triggers that can bring it to the surface. Pedophiles are my trigger. I find it *damn* hard to have an iota of sympathy for the men and women — and I use that term loosely — who prey upon the most helpless members of our societies.
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why did you feel the need to say they were white men?
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:17
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Originally posted by Gatekeeper
I don't know. That's why I put "alleged" in the sentence, because they haven't been convicted — and may not be — by a jury of their peers.
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Oh, from your jump directly from your anecdote to the failures of rehabilitation on such animals, I assumed that these were repeat offenders. I'm not sure what your plan would be to ferret out pedophiles before they victimize someone...
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Originally posted by Gatekeeper
Perhaps someone has access to a database regarding the repeat offense percentage in the world pedophile population? Those are the folks who would make ideal candidates for the proposal put forward by Seeker.
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recidivism rates for sex offenders is in actuality much lower than "regular" criminals. Much of that is probably due to the relative severity in sentences, ie, your common car thief is on average going to spend much less time in the clink than a sex offender.
from the doj:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#child
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Sex offenders
On a given day in 1994 there were approximately 234,000 offenders convicted of rape or sexual assault under the care, custody, or control of corrections agencies; nearly 60% of these sex offenders are under conditional supervision in the community.
The median age of the victims of imprisoned sexual assaulters was less than 13 years old; the median age of rape victims was about 22 years.
An estimated 24% of those serving time for rape and 19% of those serving time for sexual assault had been on probation or parole at the time of the offense for which they were in State prison in 1991.
Of the 9,691 male sex offenders released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, 5.3% were rearrested for a new sex crime within 3 years of release.
Of released sex offenders who allegedly committed another sex crime, 40% perpetrated the new offense within a year or less from their prison discharge.
Child victimizers
Approximately 4,300 child molesters were released from prisons in 15 States in 1994. An estimated 3.3% of these 4,300 were rearrested for another sex crime against a child within 3 years of release from prison.
Among child molesters released from prison in 1994, 60% had been in prison for molesting a child 13 years old or younger.
Offenders who had victimized a child were on average 5 years older than the violent offenders who had committed their crimes against adults. Nearly 25% of child victimizers were age 40 or older, but about 10% of the inmates with adult victims fell in that age range. |
Compare this to the general criminal recidivism rates:
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Recidivism
Of the 272,111 persons released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, an estimated 67.5% were rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within 3 years, 46.9% were reconvicted, and 25.4% resentenced to prison for a new crime.
The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 accounted for nearly 4,877,000 arrest charges over their recorded careers.
Within 3 years of release, 2.5% of released rapists were rearrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for a new homicide.
Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense –– 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders.
Sex offenders were about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison –– 5.3 percent of sex offenders versus 1.3 percent of non-sex offenders. |
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:17
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so you see, the problem isn't that rehabilitation is a failure, its figuring out which 3.3 out of a hundred are going to be continual threats to the community. The best way to do that is to have a vigilant police force who actually enforces sex offender registries and parole officers that actually do their jobs. A rarity. I disagree with vigilante witchburners who interfere with a criminal who has served his time, reestablishing himself elsewhere and becoming gainfully employed in a non-child threatening career.
another website on this topic :http://www.ipce.info/newsletters/e_..._recidivism.htm
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asleepathewheel
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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
time: 00:17
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if kids were allowed to carry guns, these things wouldn't be a problem.
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10-04-2005 08:24
ACK!
. Being ugly has its advantages.
dude, that is ****ing terrible
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