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Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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He's not attaching them, he's linking to them. Post the URL of the pic in [ img ] [ /img ] tags (minus the spaces)

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Can somone explain to me why Verto is allowed to post huge -ass pics? I'm not allowed to go beyond 800x600...



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Lets see...



Funny thing, it didn't want to show the Morrowind picture from Gamepsy. No problem with Adriana, though. I wonder why. Maybe there's a geek-meter and you can't go beyond a certain limit?

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I just transferred my first music file to my Xbox hard drive.

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Wohooo I just read about the specs... awesome thing! This could definately be enough for some time ahead. Not like the original Xbox whose specs didn't look like anything great at all! A 700Mhz CPU based on Intel's PIII,... some stupid Grafikcore...

Anyway the question remains.. why only 20GB HDD???

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That's the stock one it'll come with -- the reason? Cost.

They said it was upgradable.

Couple strong rumours: http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/5771/

Apple is working with Sony on the PS3? PS3/iPod/iTunes integration? Wouldn't surprise me at all, a good business move by both. Microsoft does that all on its own, Sony has shown itself inept with the digital music era, and Apple has shown itself inept with mass market electronics. Good combo.

More importantly: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/613/613541p1.html

Square/Enix and Microsoft form an alliance?

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20 GB should be decent enough size for most people anyway.

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Apple has shown itself inept with mass market electronics


The iPod's not a mass market electronic device?

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Square/Enix and Microsoft form an alliance?


If true I will get an XBox

single reason why I got a PS and a PS2

Jon Miller

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A final fantasy exclusive? I personally don't care about japanese rpg's, but that would be a huge deal for the Xbox 360. I'm sceptical, though. Next step would be a Grand Theft Auto exclusive. Now that would give a huge boost to the 360...

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I can't believe that Asher actually said that. Apple actually makes money from its mass market electronics. The Xbox makes very little. M$ is in trouble I think – the rumblings have been getting louder lately.

The Xbox better be a winner for them. In the last couple of years they have been absolutely owned by Google in search and web services, and by Apple in operating systems, Digital music and portable players.

I was playing around with Tiger the other day. Windows is a sad, pathetic joke compared to that. Mbucks better hit the ball out of the park with Longhorn or the writing will be on the wall.

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Yeah, maybe they'll drop to 90% of the world's computers instead of 95% .

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I can't believe that Asher actually said that.

I can't believe you missed the wink.

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Apple actually makes money from its mass market electronics. The Xbox makes very little. M$ is in trouble I think – the rumblings have been getting louder lately.

The Xbox better be a winner for them. In the last couple of years they have been absolutely owned by Google in search and web services, and by Apple in operating systems, Digital music and portable players.

I was playing around with Tiger the other day. Windows is a sad, pathetic joke compared to that. Mbucks better hit the ball out of the park with Longhorn or the writing will be on the wall.

Yes, Microsoft is in trouble.

You seem to lose perspective on things, Agathon. Which is not surprising, given that you're both studying philosphy and in the la-la land of academia. As a tangent -- this is one reason I feel Philosophers (as in, people majoring in Philosophy at universities today) are unnecessary -- they all seem so disconnected from reality...and a tether to reality is what they need.

Apple's Tiger is a niche OS. It's buggy, it breaks applications, it breaks plugins, it does things by "accident" that would get MS fined for billions of dollars (like ignoring user prefs for default browser and making Safari that browser). Apple has also introduced even more visual styles for Aqua and breaks their own Human Interface Guidelines (HIG) liberally for how they're used. The behavior of new applications like Spotlight are utterly baffling and counter-intuitive, and other applications like Mail seem like they got downgraded since the previous release and look like conceptual screenshots for a High School Student's compsci project.

Apple can churn out OSes faster than MS because of their small, controlled userbase.

They make small OS updates seem more significant thanks to a hideously ignorant userbase, and ones that are enveloped in their famed reality distortion field.

OS X Tiger is a minor update. SP2 was a larger product that took much more effort to do. As a result, SP2 computers are more secure than those without.

Ironically, Tiger makes some blatantly stupid changes and security issues that make it less secure than those with Panther.

But as usual, Apple will keep patching it until it's stable.

Doesn't change the fact that they screwed over the third party software developer -- something MS won't do (can't do).

Your mindless gloating of how Apple is oh so superior is tiring. It's a tiny company, with tiny userbases, which allow it to do more with worrying about less. If Apple was MS' size, they'd have been broken into pieces by now. But Apple is not MS' size, and never will be MS' size, because their main selling points come from them being a niche market. Once they're mainstream, they're just as "bad" as everyone else. Only that much more expensive.

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Everything you say is irrelevant since Windows XP blows goats in comparison to the current version of OS X.

Want proper search as opposed to MSN Desktop crapola or some other piece of junk? Sorry...

Want proper graphics? Sorry...

Want virus and spyware free computing? Sorry...

It's painfully obvious that you haven't much new to offer since you started on your "I hate philosophy" crap again.

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Want virus and spyware free computing? Sorry...


I thought you said you had an Apple... hardly virus free, with huge security flaws in the new Dashboard program I've posted before.

At least Gatekeeper is intelligent, he has admited that the reason Apple has less viruses and spyware is because of its miniscule market share. Who cares to virus 4% of computers?

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Moreover, they're STUPID security holes, from design flaws based on the reasoning "it's Apple; it CAN'T have spyware or viruses!"

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That's the stock one it'll come with -- the reason? Cost.

They said it was upgradable.


They must be calculating pretty tight then... I also heard the initial price will be $299, but I cannot really believe that... and probably only in the US... in the EU they always think they can **** with the customers and demand unbelievable prices... bastards!

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20 GB should be decent enough size for most people anyway.


It's certainly too small for my d1ck

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At least Gatekeeper is intelligent, he has admited that the reason Apple has less viruses and spyware is because of its miniscule market share. Who cares to virus 4% of computers?


They increased their marketshare again

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Back on topic. Unsurprisingly, Halo 3 will not be a launch title. Instead, it will come out at the same time as the PS3, or so claims Bill Gates. But they'll need more than Master Chief to beat Sony, with their huge following. Maybe Final Fantasy, Splinter Cell and Grand Theft Auto exclusives would do the trick, who knows? But needless to say, that would be very expensive...

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That Bill Gates is a cunning one. In a Time Magazine article, the chief of Microsoft issued a stark war plan to take on rival Sony in the next-generation video game wars. Besides launching the Xbox 360 earlier than the next Playstation, Microsoft plans to use Halo's Master Chief to put up a second front against the impending juggernaut.

Gates told Time Magazine that Sony would "walk in" on the blockbuster Halo franchise when it decides to debut its next Playstation.

"It's perfect," Gates said. "The day Sony launches [the new PlayStation], and they walk right into Halo 3."

The threat is an admirable one considering Halo 2 has sold over 6.7 million copies since it was released on November 9th.

Microsoft owes its success to a one man army known as the Master Chief, the lead character in Halo. Bungie's Halo for the Xbox is largely credited for driving the Xbox into homes across America. It's sequel, Halo 2, amassed over $125 million dollars in 24 hours, marking it as one of the biggest entertainment successes to date.

Sony, expected to launch the next Playstation in 2006, is a force to be reckoned with. In 1995, the company's Playstation dominated the video game market with over 100 million consoles sold worlwide. The sequel, Playstation 2 repeated the success and has sold about 88 million units worldwide.

Microsoft recently debuted the Xbox 360, the second coming of the Xbox, to MTV Networks worldwide on May 12. The system is expected to collide head on with Sony's next Playstation and Nintendo's next system, code-named Revoltion. All three companies will detail more information about their war strategies at this week's Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles.

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I heard Perfect Dark was going to be a/the launch title.

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I heard Perfect Dark was going to be a/the launch title.


Yes, but we know Bungee delivers the goods. Rare, otoh, we don't know. Their last game, the ghoul game, wasn't exactly a must-have. Perfect Dark could well be a mediocre shooter. But I hope not.

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PS3 details officially confirmed:

It was rumoured to have 4 Cell processors, each with 8 "SPE" (vector) units and a PowerPC core.

It turns out, it'll have 1 Cell Processor, with 6 usable "SPE" (vector) units and a PowerPC core.

The Cell has access to 256MB of 25GB/s RAMBUS RAM.

The GPU will be a variant of Nvidia's "G70" chip (mostly identical), which is itself a speedbumped version of the GeForce 6800. This means it is a "4th" generation variant of the NV40. This is in contrast to the Xbox 360's GPU, which is the "R500" (5th generation), and won't show up in PCs for a couple years yet due to its radically different architecture.

From a featureset perspective, the Xbox 360's GPU is quite a bit superior, in particular supporting the next-generationg shader architecture, while the PS3's GPU uses the same shader version in today's PC cards. The PS3 GPU is using 256MB of GDDR3 (22.5GB/s) RAM.

The general consensus so far is the PS3 GPU is a rushjob. Nvidia didn't even have time to adapt the memory interface to RAMBUS. I predicted this quite a while ago on these very forums...Sony/Toshiba were working on their graphics chip and got scared by the Xbox's surprise performance and rumours of a similar technique of ATI/Nvidia GPUs in the Xbox2, so Sony desperately tried to grab one as well.

Competition.

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PS3.

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It certainly looks much nicer.

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Than the PS2? Yes.

Than the Xbox 360? Not IMO.

It looks like a mini-fridge with the "Spiderman" font showing the name...

And the fact that the only available image is from that angle is a bit telling about the size of the device.

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CPU: PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz with 1 VMX (AltiVec) unit, single-threaded and 512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz with 256KB L2 cache each and 128 128-bit SIMD registers each

GPU:
Nvidia G70-derived GPU @550MHz

Memory:
256MB XDR CPU RAM @ 3.2GHz (25.6GB/s)
256MB GDDR3 GPU RAM @700MHz (22.4GB/s)

Storage:
Detachable 2.5" HDD

I/O:
USB 2.0: Front x 4, Rear x 2
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g

Controller:
Bluetooth wireless (up to 7)

Can read CDs, DVDs, SACDs, and HD-DVDs (BluRay).

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Another Pic:

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And last pic.

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Yeah, that definitely looks cooler than the X-box 360. Both are nice, though.

 
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