13-05-2005 06:50									#211
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Was this the best out of the bunch?

	13-05-2005 06:51									#212
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quote: Was this the best out of the bunch?

Yeah, I think so. But some of them were just as cool.


Damn... Ghost Recon for 360 looks AMAZING!

	13-05-2005 06:58									#213
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Btw, Perfect Dark Zero looks like it'll be a kickass opening title for XBox 360. Looks better than Halo at the moment.

They showed like a quick second look of the controller while the Team Deathmatch was going on. Looks alright. I definetly prefer the black and white buttons going to shoulder buttons.

Yep... I was right... little of substance. Great looks at Perfect Dark Zero and some of the other games.

	13-05-2005 08:27									#214
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quote: We also asked Chris Satchell, the General Manager of XNA at Microsoft if we could possibly connect a USB keyboard to the 360. He told us that, "we will allow you to plug in a USB keyboard. It's very useful for the text entry. What we're not enabling it for, we're not enabling it for gameplay." So the keyboard is a go for text entry, but a no-go for game control.

Haha, what is this crap

I haven't seen the special yet, but from reading running commentary about it, it sounds like it was absolutely awful. I'll probably watch it later tonight for the comedy value.

	13-05-2005 08:29									#215
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I really hope they keep it that way.

I don't want the consoles to become PCs...

Players with keyboards and mice would have a competitive advantage over those without.

I prefer the laid-back atmosphere of gaming with a console, and the last thing I want it to be like is PC online gaming.

If you want keyboard+mouse, PC game.
If you want a controller, console game.

	13-05-2005 08:33									#216
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay Haha, what is this crap I haven't seen the special yet, but from reading running commentary about it, it sounds like it was absolutely awful. I'll probably watch it later tonight for the comedy value.

Perhaps it was directed by the same talentless nimrod who put together this year's MTV Music Video Awards. I've never seen a more inept piece of crap in my life.

	13-05-2005 08:35									#217
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Why would anyone buy a keyboard just for 'text entry'? That's silly.

	13-05-2005 08:36									#218
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Why would they need to buy one? They can just plug a USB keyboard they already own into it.

	13-05-2005 08:38									#219
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I'm sure they'll try to sell one if they are going to allow that feature .

	13-05-2005 08:39									#220
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui I'm sure they'll try to sell one if they are going to allow that feature .

Microsoft already sells USB keyboards...

	13-05-2005 08:42									#221
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I mean a 'cool' X-Box one.

"Designed for" the X-Box.

	13-05-2005 08:43									#222
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui I mean a 'cool' X-Box one. "Designed for" the X-Box.

If they do, it'd cost virtually nothing to do.

Change a logo or something, that's it.

Just don't see your point is all.

	13-05-2005 08:46									#223
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The point is, I'm sure they are also marketing the XBox to people without computers as well (yes, they do exist ). And even to those with computers, what's the point to connect your keyboard to the X-Box to type in a less than 20 letter name? Why code in keyboard support if it won't be activated for gaming?

	13-05-2005 08:49									#224
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui The point is, I'm sure they are also marketing the XBox to people without computers as well (yes, they do exist ). And even to those with computers, what's the point to connect your keyboard to the X-Box to type in a less than 20 letter name? Why code in keyboard support if it won't be activated for gaming?

Maybe because the console does other things?

It's tedious to name all your music files without a keyboard.

Or video files.

etc.

	13-05-2005 09:25									#225
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For the complete Gamespy coverage. Not sure if there's new stuff yet. Haven't read it yet.http://archive.gamespy.com/landing/xbox360/

	13-05-2005 09:31									#226
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From Gamespy:

quote: We checked out the final mainboard of the 360, complete with a water-cooled CPU, GPU, and memory modules installed.

Watercooling!

So it's quiet! :d

	13-05-2005 09:33									#227
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quote: Along with seeing the final CPU, GPU, TV encoder, and Southbridge chips in the flesh, we were told how the CPU's three cores are capable of running at a whopping 3.2 GHz each -- each core supporting two threads making for a total of six threads running at any one time. The CPU is a custom-built IBM PowerPC-based chip. The GPU is also a powerhouse, and Holmdahl seemed confident that the graphical grunt of the 360 is around twice as powerful as the most powerful PC chipset architecture currently in circulation. With a clock speed of 500 MHz, the GPU (designed by ATI) is able to support up to 48 different pixel shaders (advanced shader language) at any one time, something which will allow developers and artists to use some truly gorgeous rendering and special effects in their games. The CPU and GPU are linked together by a blisteringly fast data bus which can transfer operations at an incredible 5.4 Gb per second. Couple this together with the TV encoder chip (responsible for the various high-definition output modes that connect to HD-compatible displays) and the Southbridge chip which deals with a variety of functions like audio, and the core of the 360 shapes up to be incredibly efficient and extremely powerful. The bottom line? Games for the Xbox 360 have the potential to be very, very special. After all, the overall system floating-point performance of the machine is an astounding 1 TFLOP!

48 pixel shading programs at one time! So those "absurd" rumours of 48 independent ALUs on the graphics chip are not so absurd after all.

	13-05-2005 09:44									#228
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Another look at the beast. Btw, if you don't like the white, you can change the faceplate. There should be a good choice of faceplates.

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	13-05-2005 09:45									#229
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The harddrive is detachable, removable, and upgradable.

That's especially cool, actually. It's that much easier to bring saved games/music soundtracks/etc to a friends house.

	13-05-2005 09:45									#230
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Hopefully they offer different colors for the controller .

I hear that the "X" on the controller is also a button for XBox Live, IIRC.

	13-05-2005 09:47									#231
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Hopefully they offer different colors for the controller . I hear that the "X" on the controller is also a button for XBox Live, IIRC.

It controls menus on the system, including Xbox Live.

You can also use it to turn on/off the system from the controller somehow.

	13-05-2005 09:47									#232
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The complete Gamespot coverage:http://www.gamespot.com/features/6124293/index.html

	13-05-2005 09:50									#233
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quote: Originally posted by Asher It controls menus on the system, including Xbox Live. You can also use it to turn on/off the system from the controller somehow.

Aw sweet... that's one thing I kind of wanted (though thought it'd be too silly for anyone to impliment)... turning the system off without going up and physically doing it

	13-05-2005 09:55									#234
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Thanks for the link, nostromo. It seems you can connect the controller to the system with USB, so if you are low on battery, you can use it as a corded controller. Good idea.

	13-05-2005 10:06									#235
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Btw, I'll also say I like the Silver/Gold for XBox Live. Since I probably won't be a Gold member, it's good to know I can download patches for games and stuff like that . WTG, Microsoft!

	13-05-2005 10:18									#236
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Btw, I'll also say I like the Silver/Gold for XBox Live. Since I probably won't be a Gold member, it's good to know I can download patches for games and stuff like that . WTG, Microsoft!

And also Demos.

	13-05-2005 10:34									#237
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I wonder what they mean by Wi-fi ready. Does it mean that I don't need to buy a wireless network card for the 360, that I only need to buy a wireless router?

	13-05-2005 10:36									#238
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The videos I've seen show it as having an antenna, I think what it means is you need the infrastructure (like a router).

	13-05-2005 11:26									#239
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According to Gamespot:

quote: The rear of the system has a third USB 2.0 port, an Ethernet port, and a slot for a small, gum-packet-sized Wi-Fi adapter. At this time, the wireless adapter will be sold separately.

And it seems that a 20 GB hard disk will be come standard after all...

	13-05-2005 17:10									#240
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The HD is standard?

Is there still going to be two variations at launch then?