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Don't feel overwhelmed by it's masculinity.

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And it's too large.

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I don't think the Xbox looks cool.

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The XBox is a ****ing symbol for sexy technology.

It's solid shape says PH33R ME! It's manly controllers say STEP BACK PREPUBS!

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It's a giant black box with a gaudy green logo on top...


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To each his own, I guess. And remember guys, nothing has been confirmed yet. Moreover, I don't know if you have noticed this, but the eject arrow doesn't point in the same direction in every shot. So we'll have to wait the 16th to confirm all this.

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And let's pray they don't.

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Now if it were black, it might be ok... of course that means the controllers have to be black as well.

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http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22839

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Xbox 360 to be backwards compatible

It's a-Live

By Wil Harris: Wednesday 27 April 2005, 10:17
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A QUESTIONNAIRE being taken online by Xbox Live users appears to give the final confirmation that Xbox 360 will be backwards compatible - at least, if you buy it with the optional hard drive.

The questionnaire deals with Xbox Live and says subscribers through the original Xbox will be able to play against gamers on Xbox 2 -- as long as they are playing a current generation Xbox game.

"Xbox Live is an online gaming service that works across both the current Xbox system and the future Xbox 2. You will be able to play online and compete against others across both consoles. If you are playing an Xbox game on Live you will be able to compete against people playing that same game on Xbox 2".

So XBox games will run on "XBox 2".

The hard drive comes in because the original Xbox had one and the games are written to use one.

INQUIRER reader, Epobirs suggests that the hard drive could be used to house an optimisation library of Xbox 360 native binaries to run the first-generation games, thus increasing performance.

This sounds like a pretty good idea to us, and one that has had some use previously, with FX!32 on the DEC Alpha, utilising translations of code it produced previously to optimise the next time an application ran.

It is unlikely that Xbox games running on the Xbox 360 will look any better, although it's possible that they could be anti-aliased using spare graphics power.

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http://www.windowsitpro.com/windows...rott_46173.html

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he revealed that the game controllers for the next-generation Xbox 2 will be Longhorn compatible, providing a single controller for both video game consoles and PCs.

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http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8145/...-HDTV-Alliance/




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Samsung Electronics and Microsoft Corp. announced today an alliance to elevate gaming to the next level through high-definition technology. Microsoft has chosen Samsung as the exclusive HDTV worldwide marketing partner for the next-generation Xbox high-definition (HD) gaming platform. The announcement was made today during the Home Entertainment Expo at the New York Hilton.

The next-generation Xbox/Samsung HDTV combination is designed to deliver the most advanced and realistic high-definition experience to gamers worldwide.

To promote the HD Era, the companies plan to place over 25,000 Samsung high-definition televisions in Microsoft Xbox retail kiosk locations across the globe.

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I heard a rumor that the next Nintendos will come with a built-in projector, making it unneccessary to even have a TV. Any word on this?

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I see no way they could; a decent projector would run you at least a grand; having one that is built into the console would make it even more prohibitive.

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It's possible, but highly unlikely. They would need to have a LED (i.e., a substitute for a light bulb) that would be much more powerful than that currently available.

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An alleged prototype (as it has a cord, no Xbox logo, etc). This is a horrendous mistake in design if it's the real deal. Not only will white show dirt more than a black controller, but this just looks like something Nintendo would have come out with 4 years ago.



And for kicks, what is believed to be a shot of....THE OPENING SEQUENCE OMGFG!!

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I hope that isn't real. That's fugly.

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Its sure looks fugly. It could be a prototype, but its definitely not the final design. The cord is a dead giveaway. And it doesn't seem you can press those buttons.

In other news, Gates said the Xbox 360 will have an interface similar to Windows XP Media center edition, with access to pictures, movies, tv...

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Where are the black and white buttons on that?

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They have been replaced by shoulder buttons.

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Man, that prototype controller does look ugly... here is hoping for multiple colors!

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It seems these photos were taken with a cellphone... It looks more and more legit. It looks better than the prototype imo. It still won't win a design contest, mind you. Notice the USB camera on the right.

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A close-up of the gamepad. I actually prefer the new logo. Notice the connectors for the headphones on the bottom. Edit: it seems the logo is actually a button.

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And here's a close-up of the remote

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And yep, I'm still at home, working on the PhD thesis...

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I like the look.

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MS has made all of the concessions before to make inroads into the marketplace. It's looking to make money this time.

If an XBOX2 costs too much people will not buy it.

I guarantee you this. No matter how awesome it is--if MS makes too much money off each sale, it will not be sold.

Besides, even after the loss on the consoles, didn't MS make money overall off the original XBOX plus controllers, cards, games, etc.?

At least it isn't as big as the old XBOX. Flippin huge.

What are we looking at for the next Nintendo and Sony consoles? What is this ugly boy's competition going to be?

P. S. I bet you the real XBOX2 is totally different from all this that's leaked. Microsoft is too evil to have a genuine lossage of information.

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What are we looking at for the next Nintendo and Sony consoles? What is this ugly boy's competition going to be?


We know next to nothing about the Nintendo. We know a bit more about the PS3. Nvidia will design the GPU and it will have about the same horsepower as the one found in the Xbox 360, which is designed by ATI. However, the Cell, the PS3's CPU, is reportedly 3x faster than the one found in the Xbox 360. So, this time around, the PS3 will actually be more powerful than the Xbox 360.

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I doubt it. These photos were taken at the MTV party where they unvealed the Xbox 360. Yes, they already taped it.

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I agree, its doesn't look too bad. It looks better than the prototype. I like the black dvd tray and they improved the power button.

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We know next to nothing about the Nintendo. We know a bit more about the PS3. Nvidia will design the GPU and it will have about the same horsepower as the one found in the Xbox 360, which is designed by ATI. However, the Cell, the PS3's CPU, is reportedly 3x faster than the one found in the Xbox 360. So, this time around, the PS3 will actually be more powerful than the Xbox 360.

It's much more complicated than that.

The Nvidia GPU will likely not be the same kind of GPU as the ATI one in the Xbox. In fact, it may be mostly a raster chip with anti-aliasing abiliites...the whole point of the Cell chip in the PS3 was insane parallel vectoring performance...exactly the same kind of performance needed for graphics.

The Cell itself is overrated. It's very useful for things like graphics processing and some types of physics processing, but not very useful for general game code. Game code is very logic-oriented...and the Cell can't do much of anything in "branching" code...it works by divying up the work into very small, independent packets and sending them out to the cells. If you're doing something where one packet immediately depends on the next (very common in game programming), you can't do this in parallel.

The MS (and presumably Nintendo) CPUs are much more balanced.

The "3x powerful" thing comes from theoretical numbers that will never be achieved. Look at it this way: the PS2 is ~4x powerful than the Xbox using the same method of measurement.

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I see. But I'm certain Sony will use that line. "The PS3 will be 3 X more powerful than the Xbox 360. So why settle for less? Wait for the PS3!"

 
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