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She doesnt have a penis, therefore she was not important.
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Jul 2005
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Btw, she's also one of those lovely people who says EVERY sexual act is rape. |
Is not.
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The attacks on Dworkin were not only personal; they also applied to her work. John Berger once called Dworkin "the most misrepresented writer in the western world". She has always been seen as the woman who said that all men are rapists, and that all sex is rape. In fact, she said neither of these things. Here's what she told me in 1997: "If you believe that what people call normal sex is an act of dominance, where a man desires a woman so much that he will use force against her to express his desire, if you believe that's romantic, that's the truth about sexual desire, then if someone denounces force in sex it sounds like they're denouncing sex. If conquest is your mode of understanding sexuality, and the man is supposed to be a predator, and then feminists come along and say, no, sorry, that's using force, that's rape - a lot of male writers have drawn the conclusion that I'm saying all sex is rape." In other words, it's not that all sex involves force, but that all sex which does involve force is rape. |
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Kontiki
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Canada
Aug 2001
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Is her "clarification" actually supposed to mean something?
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St Leo
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Member of the Apolyton Social Democratic Party
Jul 2005
time: 00:35
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Originally posted by Az
btw, what's with that "womyn" thingee? |
"womyn" is a silly linguistic change espoused by feministics of the Radical stripe. I'd be more receptive to the idea if the word "woman" phonetically rhymed with "man", but it doesn't IMHO.
Dworkin was a Radical feminist, so the ill-timed mockery is not entirely out of context.
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Some Woman:
I was discussing my previous journal entry with my boyfriend tonight, and he was a bit bothered by the misuse of the label "radical feminist." He asked that I might consider clarifying the differences between the four m
The definitions below are taken verbatim from here. Though the source is political, these definitions are consistent with what I know, and are purely academic in nature.
- Liberal feminism emphasizes social and legal reforms through policies designed to create equal opportunities for women, thereby assuming that changes in socialization practices and the reeducation of the public will result in more liberated and egalitarian gender relations. It underpins mainstreaming efforts that lead to extensive changes in women's legal rights and status.
- Marxist feminism sees capitalism's class relations as the root cause of the oppression, exploitation and discrimination experienced by women. Under capitalism, the family system characteristic of modern societies can socialize or force women into unpaid domestic labor that benefits men. Marxist feminism, in contrast, does not see men per se as the "enemy" -- both working class women and men are exploited by capitalism, which must be overthrown to create a more equal and equitable society. It asserts that, except for their sex, working class women have more in common with working class men than with upper class women.
- Socialist feminism sees the origins of women's oppression in the systems of patriarchy and capitalism. It underscores how the relations between capital and patriarchy bring about women's subordinate status. There is, therefore, a need to transform capitalism simultaneously with the struggle against male domination and to surface the gender perspective in all social, political, economic and cultural issues. Socialist feminism, especially for women in developing countries, has worked at overcoming gender blindness in the struggle for development and against shared oppression of women due to class, race, religion or citizenship.
- Radical feminism looks at gender as the primary form of oppression and sees class and race as extensions of patriarchal domination. Most of its strategies are focused on reshaping consciousness and redefining social relations to create a woman-centered culture. Sometimes featuring a rigid rejection of men as a dominant class, radical feminism emphasizes the positive capacities of women by focusing on the creative dimensions of women's experiences. It also serves as the cutting edge of the women's movement, exploring vast tracks of unknown grounds in seeking women's liberation.
I, for example, fall within the liberal feminist category. I don't believe that our social system is fundamentally broken, but, rather, that we can work within it to effect change. The ideas discussed in my prior journal entry that were labeled "radical feminist" most likely also fall under liberal feminism as well. |
Based on those blurbs, I am probably a Liberal with Marxist tendencies.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
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Where can I find more pics of the 'woman' example? For further study of course...
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Apolyton Time is 00:35. |
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13-04-2005 00:07
) perfect woman would be feminine, and strong, and self reliant, and whatever other good "masculine" qualities are there. She'd also be compassionate, and good with kids, and attentive. THESE THINGS ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
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