16-04-2005 21:40									#61
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women arent ****ing dogs. they arent easily suggestable just by talking about them. you know what will happen? he will alienate her by talking about **** like that.

dont try to sabatoge theman.

	16-04-2005 21:51									#62
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It is interesting to see the different advice given on this type of subject because teh answer will vary according to your culture. MRT, I dont know where you are from, but in US, if a girl introduces the subject of penis in a conversation, you will not do wrong to keep the conversation going along those lines. And ANY girl will get horny the more she talks about penis - even if it discussion is not directly sexual.

	16-04-2005 22:00									#63
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The girl was obviously uncomfortable with even saying the word. If a girl says things like "i like it doggy more than getting oral" then you are golden.

And you have no idea how easy it is to alienate a girl by discussing sex ad naseum.

	16-04-2005 22:30									#64
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 It is interesting to see the different advice given on this type of subject because teh answer will vary according to your culture. MRT, I dont know where you are from, but in US, if a girl introduces the subject of penis in a conversation, you will not do wrong to keep the conversation going along those lines. And ANY girl will get horny the more she talks about penis - even if it discussion is not directly sexual.

Dude, what planet are you from? I think youīre just pulling Dipīs leg here...

	17-04-2005 00:08									#65
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If she introduces it in a slightly homophobic and childish way, then that's not really what most men are looking for, at the end of the day

	17-04-2005 00:17									#66
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quote: Originally posted by bfg9000 Now I'm more convinced than ever that she wanted you to make a move on her in the apartment.

Well, it's all the dogs fault. She had sat down on the couch right next to me in her apartment and so I was planning on making a move. But when the dog bothered me, she got up and took the dog and sat in a chair across the room.

And last night, after the play when she pulled up in front of my apartment I was going to kiss her good night. When I said "good night" I moved closer to her but instead of looking at me and making eye contact (in which case I would have kissed her) she just looked ahead and put several ice breakers in her mouth so I figured she did not want a kiss.

	17-04-2005 00:20									#67
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quote: When I said "good night" I moved closer to her but instead of looking at me and making eye contact (in which case I would have kissed her) she just looked ahead and put several ice breakers in her mouth so I figured she did not want a kiss.

Yup, that would be the logical conclusion!

Shoulda patted her on the ass before you walked away, saying "Check ya later, toots."

	17-04-2005 00:20									#68
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the truth is that one of the reasons, I started this thread was to see what kind of advice you guys had. I am kinda inexperienced when it comes to dating. I tend to hesitate a bit on dates because I am not sure about the signals. Make a move when the girl isn't interested and you ruin the date, but fail to make a move when the girl is interested and she might lose interest.

If only girls just said what they wanted, what a perfect world that would be, albeit a more boring one.

	17-04-2005 00:27									#69
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Naw, that last post made it sound as if you read the signals right.

Doggis interruptus: I think you're right - the way you reacted to the dog gave her an opportunity to have second thoughts, and those second thoughts made her get off the couch (luckily w/o making it seem like it was you who was at issue here.)

The icebreaker one is as obvious as it can be. You'd have to be autistic not to figure that one out.

	17-04-2005 00:46									#70
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat She actually says to me: "Imagine he has to kiss that girl when he uses his mouth on a man's p.e.n.i.s."

So what about a woman kissing a straight guy when she uses her mouth on a p.e.n.i.s.? I'd think that would be something of a bit more concern.

	17-04-2005 00:46									#71
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Naw, that last post made it sound as if you read the signals right. Doggis interruptus: I think you're right - the way you reacted to the dog gave her an opportunity to have second thoughts, and those second thoughts made her get off the couch (luckily w/o making it seem like it was you who was at issue here.) The icebreaker one is as obvious as it can be. You'd have to be autistic not to figure that one out.

or at least a mild case of asperger's

	17-04-2005 01:09									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov So what about a woman kissing a straight guy when she uses her mouth on a p.e.n.i.s.? I'd think that would be something of a bit more concern.

But since that wasn't of concern to her, it clearly indicates she would never put her mouth near a p.e.n.i.s. Obviously a closet les.

	17-04-2005 01:11									#73
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That's what I was thinking...

Obviously she has strong feelings about it...

	17-04-2005 01:12									#74
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Or just very very prude

	17-04-2005 01:17									#75
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No **** on the second date.

She's a ****en **** mate.

	17-04-2005 01:17									#76
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too prude

	17-04-2005 01:20									#77
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Damn **** is censored. I meant "lesbian".

Don't you hate it when the censor makes your post look far ruder than it was?

	17-04-2005 01:24									#78
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Its been so long since i dated but i remeber correctly, if i didnt want you to kiss me means the sparks didnt fly. Your ok to see as a buddy but not a sexual interest. By the way a girl will tell you what she wants but uhh you kinda have to ask. just as you guys, we arent mindreaders either.

	17-04-2005 01:26									#79
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No guy wants to be a "buddy" though

	17-04-2005 01:39									#80
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quote: just as you guys, we arent mindreaders either.

Liar. You lot always know if we've been bad.

	17-04-2005 01:42									#81
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not if they are looking for more they dont, your right there but i bet if your just now starting to date your gonna find a lot more buddies then gfs. But in this case i was simply stating my opinon Truth be known she can be a shy prude.... Id give it one more date and if she shoots him down then he will know she isnt interested

	17-04-2005 01:44									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker No guy wants to be a "buddy" though

Well, I donīt know. Sometimes itīs nice to hang out with chicks instead of guys.

	17-04-2005 01:53									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski not if they are looking for more they dont, your right there but i bet if your just now starting to date your gonna find a lot more buddies then gfs. But in this case i was simply stating my opinon Truth be known she can be a shy prude.... Id give it one more date and if she shoots him down then he will know she isnt interested

Yeah, I hear you.

Hey are you drinking tonight??

	17-04-2005 01:54									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: just as you guys, we arent mindreaders either. Liar. You lot always know if we've been bad.

	17-04-2005 01:54									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg Well, I donīt know. Sometimes itīs nice to hang out with chicks instead of guys.

I usually hang out with my friend's girlfriends or wives cause it's very clear there is nothing even romantic about it at all, makes thing simpler for all of us.

	17-04-2005 01:55									#86
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I am i have already started

	17-04-2005 01:56									#87
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Lemme whip up a protein shake then.

	17-04-2005 02:01									#88
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cheers then let the drinking commence

	17-04-2005 02:06									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker I usually hang out with my friend's girlfriends or wives cause it's very clear there is nothing even romantic about it at all, makes thing simpler for all of us.

I often wondered if there is such a thing as a man-woman friendship that doesnīt entail some sort of sexual or erotic attraction? I know I donīt hang out with girls I donīt find at least partly attractive.

	17-04-2005 02:13									#90
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sure there is i have lots of male friends. i like to sit and bs with them but i dont want to screw emm