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Zevico
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Melbourne
Apr 2002
time: 15:35
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In two words: nothing's happened.
There'll be a pullout, or there won't be; either way nothing will change (perhaps Europe will ease off pressure on Israel for this action, but it'll be temporary methinks). The chances of civil war are slim to none--no one's that idiotic.
The Palestinians aren't doing anything against terrorism [as usual].
Some commentators have apparently gone insane [or simply were never reliable in the first place]. Suddenly they think Abbas is a saint and Sharon the Messiah come again due to his 'disengagement plan'. Fundamentally there is no proof whatsover for either of these contentions. It's as if the media is speaking to itself and hoping that if it repeats itself enough Abbas and Sharon will become Mandela and DeClerk (or whatever his name is).
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:35
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quote:
it will reduce terrorism from the strip, |
What terrorism from the Gaza Strip?
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Bereta_Eder
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Who else is in the final 4? Panathinaikos, Macambi, TSSKA Moscow and...? Bologna?
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Edan
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Whats happened:
On the Israeli side:
- A push for a referendum vote on the disengagement plan was shot down, meaning the plan will very likely go ahead.
- Gaza settlers (or a majority of them) became interested in negotiating a deal for evacuating Gaza
- A protest by extreme settlers at the temple mount that would have increased tension ended up being a bust, and only about 50 protesters showed up, with 3000 policemen on hand to control it.
- Israel shot three Palestinians under disputed circumstances. Palestinians said they were playing soccer and retreiving their ball. Israel says they were involved in a weapons smuggling attempt and were trying to cross the border into Egypt.
- Sharon has extra security protection to prevent the possibility of Jewish extremists from assassinating him.
On the Palestinian side:
- There is a "cease-fire" in existant at the moment.
- There are reports that the terrorist groups are using the ceasefire to build up their weapons and infrastructure.
- About a month and a half ago, there was a suicide bomber, and evidence suggested that the Islamic Jihad offices in Syria were involved.
- Abbas was able to put an end to rocket attacks into Israel - by using Palestinian forces to prevent attacks and negotiating with the terrorist groups. However, rocket attacks into Israel started up again.
- The aftermath of the three shot Palestinians increased shelling on Israeli settlements, but the terrorists have agreed to maintain the cease-fire.
- Some Palestinian gunmen agreed to work for the Palestinian government in a jobs-for-guns program.
- Hamas has set up an Anti-Corruption Unit to safeguard Islamic virtues.
- Abbas has not done anything to shut down the terrorist groups.
- Abbas has increasingly had his authority put into questions by the various terrorist groups. (eg, gunmen firing at his offices, threats to kill palestinian MPs, etc)
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Edan
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Originally posted by Edan
although I think the the major terrorist groups aren't eager to erupt major violence until they've sufficently rebuilt and rearmed, preffering low level violence at the moment. |
Or maybe I'm wrong:
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A 15-year-old Palestinian boy carrying five pipe bombs was detained by IDF forces at the Hawara roadblock south of the West Bank town of Nablus.
The boy, identified as Hassan Hashash, was obviously sent by someone and terrified, a soldier involved in the incident told Ynet. |
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Admiral
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of the peace and coexistance movement
Feb 2001
time: 00:35
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In the end, it doesn't really matter what the PA agrees to with Hamas, etc or what they agree to with the PA. In order for their to be any chance for peace, the palestinian people have to consciously reject the radical networks. And the best way for this to happen is for Abbas to be constructive. While maintaining security is important, he must concentrate on building peaceful structures, be they governmental, infrastructural, or what have you. The people must see the PA as an effective organization, and they must see that it as a constructive agency in constrast to the destructive terror networks. When that happens, it won't matter what outside groups fund the terrorists. They'll be marginalized, and will function like organized crime does in the US.
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