20-04-2005 19:04									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Which is so symptomatic of why the left continues to decline. By holding itself as sole authority to be judge and jury what is worthy of airing for public consumption and what is not the left continues to wallow in decline. The cocksure smugness and intolerance shown by these factions (and same to be said for right wing wackjobs as well) does the movement no good whatsoever.

Cuz the right never shouts people down or shuts them up. You are so FoS your eyes are brown.

	20-04-2005 19:05									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Which is so symptomatic of why the left continues to decline. By holding itself as sole authority to be judge and jury what is worthy of airing for public consumption and what is not the left continues to wallow in decline. The cocksure smugness and intolerance shown by these factions (and same to be said for right wing wackjobs as well) does the movement no good whatsoever.

I don't think throwing pies at people is really a political strategy. It's just a way of venting anger at self-righteous jackasses.

	20-04-2005 19:05									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Moore is very effective. Apparently, he's the only major liberal talking head (that I know from my side of the pond, at least) that has taken the "raving lunatic" course which allowed such success to the Limbaughs or Coulters.

Much as I hate the stupid F*ck, I would agree he had successs. He would have had more success IMO if he hadn't threatened lawsuit to any who called him on his 'facts' and actually engaged in debate after his film came out.

	20-04-2005 19:09									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe And in taking away someone's dignity attempt to disrupt the flow of ideas and discredit them. Its still all about trying to prevent the message from occurring. Yay censorship = yay leftish wackos.

Attempting to silence the opposition is not confined to "leaftish wackos".

	20-04-2005 19:15									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Much as I hate the stupid F*ck, I would agree he had successs. He would have had more success IMO if he hadn't threatened lawsuit to any who called him on his 'facts' and actually engaged in debate after his film came out.

I don't think so.

The audience he and the Coulterlike targets aren't interested in facts. They're interested in Politicstainment, and gross exxageration, or aethetized lies are fun. And the audience cares little for knowing whether it's actually true or not.

	20-04-2005 19:17									#96
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Cuz the right never shouts people down or shuts them up. You are so FoS your eyes are brown.

Help I'm be oppressed and called FoS

Really Che, You should learn to read the portion of the statement where I decried the same of rightwing wackos.

Maybe then I wouldn't be so FoS.

	20-04-2005 19:18									#97
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quote: By holding itself as sole authority to be judge and jury what is worthy of airing for public consumption and what is not

And the right never does this?!

	20-04-2005 19:20									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious I don't think throwing pies at people is really a political strategy. It's just a way of venting anger at self-righteous jackasses.

So is your point that lefto's have less self control.

If so incarceration seems appropriate as we wouldn't want them going psycho on the street for someone cutting them off and having the temerity to show a vote W bumper sticker.

	20-04-2005 19:20									#99
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quote: • Liberal bias in the old media. That's what birthed talk radio in the first place. People turn to it to help right the imbalance. Political scientist William Mayer, writing in the Public Interest, recently observed that liberals don't need talk radio because they've got the big three networks, most national and local daily newspapers and NPR.

If many people still believe that, it just shows how hopelessly far to the right your country is...

	20-04-2005 19:22									#100
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Imran, Oerdin, Che please read my post before you do the ole' the other side does this too schtick, as I said as much.

	20-04-2005 19:23									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe So is your point that lefto's have less self control.

How is venting your anger in an non-violent way lack of self-control?

quote: If so incarceration seems appropriate as we wouldn't want them going psycho on the street for someone cutting them off and having the temerity to show a vote W bumper sticker.

Why? Because someone might get a pie in the face?

	20-04-2005 19:28									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious How is venting your anger in an non-violent way lack of self-control?

It is assault and damages ensued despite the 'frivolity' of it all.

In the case of Coulter a designer dress and shoes might run in the thousands that might have been ruined had the twits been able to aim straight.

And the concept that this is a spur of the moment emotional response is wrong. Pieing requires preparation and premeditation as pies are normally not lieing around for the casual throwing.

	20-04-2005 19:29									#103
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That's why only whipped cream pies should be used.

Now, speaking of pie, I'm going to go make a cheese cake.

	20-04-2005 19:31									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe So is your point that lefto's have less self control.

I don't know about that.


A left-winger will vent his anger by throwing a pie, while a right-winger will vent his anger by blowing up buildings, shooting people, and going on killing sprees.

	20-04-2005 19:33									#105
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OMG!!11!! They're getting violent with whipped cream!!11!!! Someone ban whipped cream before Ann Coulter gets hurt!

	20-04-2005 19:34									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe It is assault and damages ensued despite the 'frivolity' of it all. In the case of Coulter a designer dress and shoes might run in the thousands that might have been ruined had the twits been able to aim straight. And the concept that this is a spur of the moment emotional response is wrong. Pieing requires preparation and premeditation as pies are normally not lieing around for the casual throwing.

Cry me a freakin' river.

	20-04-2005 19:34									#107
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OMG its only Fertilizer better ban that before Oklahoma city gets hurt.

	20-04-2005 19:35									#108
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Yes, Ogie. People are routinely maimed and killed by whipped cream and it can be used to create explosives.

	20-04-2005 19:36									#109
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Matter of fact it can.

	20-04-2005 19:37									#110
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If they outlaw whipping cream, only outlaws will have whipping cream.

	20-04-2005 19:37									#111
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Well the repugs are in favor of outlawing masturbation.

	20-04-2005 19:38									#112
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If I was a raving FFZer I'd start claiming the opposition was "foaming at the mouth" and was "disconnected from reality" or some other silly name calling in order to avoid reality.

Yes, its bad a few lone nutters are tossing whipped cream at people but there are worse things in the world.

	20-04-2005 19:40									#113
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara If they outlaw whipping cream, only outlaws will have whipping cream.

But then maybe it will be like prohibition and the average citizen will start throwing pies at Republicans. That would be cool.

	20-04-2005 19:41									#114
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Matter of fact it can.

Can you please detail how to create a bomb which destroys buildings using whipped cream?

	20-04-2005 19:41									#115
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I'll bet there's a way to do it.

	20-04-2005 19:44									#116
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I suppose if you come down to it you could probably design a bomb set off by common table salt or something but the reality is no one is going to bother because there are easier and more effective ways to achieve such a goal.

In any event comparing someone getting whipped cream on their face to a terrorist bombing is pretty lame.

	20-04-2005 19:45									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Yes, its bad a few lone nutters are tossing whipped cream at people but there are worse things in the world.

No one is arguing that the vast majority of both sides of the fence are relatively sane folk.

The ole rub is who has the larger niche contingent of nutters. A dispute that will remain forever a point of contention as both parties typically refuse to either endorse or disavow them.

	20-04-2005 19:48									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin In any event comparing someone getting whipped cream on their face to a terrorist bombing is pretty lame.

No the point was the joke re:banning whipped cream as a means to trivilize the underlying issue of intolerance was lame. Hence the lame comparison to bomb making materials.

	20-04-2005 19:49									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Can you please detail how to create a bomb which destroys buildings using whipped cream?

Not smart these days to give bomb making details.

	20-04-2005 19:52									#120
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Pretty soon maybe you wont be able to give whip cream making details over the internet if the right wing has it's way.