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Krill
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:30
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Session Start: Tue Apr 19 19:36:56 2005
Session Ident: ormuzd
[19:36] Session Ident: ormuzd (q@vn702.pool.pro-lan.net)
[19:36] [ormuzd] better private indeed
[19:37] [ormuzd] I have some live chat with ljube and paddy about that leter
[19:37] [Krill] Really? can you post it?
[19:38] [ormuzd] just a sec
[19:38] [ormuzd] I can't post the one with ljube because we are talking on our mother languages
[19:38] [Krill] oh, and I do get logged off, can we finish the turn in the forum please?
[19:39] [Krill] OK, scrub that then 
[19:39] [ormuzd] scrub?
[19:39] [Krill] OK, BRB in about 7 minutes (got to gt some coal and put soome washing in the dryer)
[19:40] [Krill] (means forget it.
[19:45] [Krill] back
[19:47] [Krill] what was the gist (the basic meaning) of the chat?
[19:47] [ormuzd] I'm editing the log now and will post it in a minute
[19:49] [Krill] thanks
[19:52] [ormuzd] http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...578#post3745578
[19:52] [Krill] Yay, I got t piss off Paddy (sarcasm aside)
[19:52] [ormuzd] there are some problems with the ISDG
[19:52] [ormuzd] I have to play the save tonight
[19:53] [Krill] If you want I can give you a hand with that as well.
[19:53] [ormuzd] oh, I'll be more than happy
[19:53] [ormuzd] but this game is little bit more important to me
[19:54] [ormuzd] I can skip the reports and play the turn for 30 minutes if needed
[19:54] [ormuzd] anyway noone pays great attention to that game
[19:54] [ormuzd] I'm playing it since 4 month
[19:54] [ormuzd] anyway
[19:54] [Krill] BRB
[19:54] [ormuzd] let's concentrate over this one
[19:54] [ormuzd] read my chat with paddy
[19:55] [ormuzd] I'll take a look at the save
[19:56] [Krill] I've looked at the chat. Wht tried t d wth the PM was make it sound like war, only if they did not remove their warrior. Seems I failed...
[20:01] [ormuzd] please, don't take it personal
[20:01] [ormuzd] I have some remarks about you
[20:02] [ormuzd] but I think they have agreed to move their warrior away
[20:07] [Krill] Really? I wonder just how annoying I am...
[20:08] [Krill] I have a draft that ou might want to look at. Beest that we have someoe lk it over...
[20:08] [Krill] look
[20:09] [Krill] http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...632#post3745632
[20:12] [ormuzd] damn!!!
[20:12] [ormuzd] two turns to play
[20:12] [ormuzd] uleb cup finals
[20:13] [ormuzd] playoffs in the regional championship
[20:13] [ormuzd] and only one PC for both me and my brother
[20:13] [Krill] uleb?
[20:13] [ormuzd] basketball
[20:14] [Krill] why do yu need a PC for Basketball?
[20:15] [ormuzd] my brother needs to post some news
[20:15] [ormuzd] and we need to share the only one we have
[20:15] [ormuzd] but he has left me for now
[20:15] [ormuzd] it seems I'll play the ISDG turn tomorrow after work
[20:17] [Krill] Another Consul cn play the save, if needed, or GK. He is a competant player.
[20:17] [ormuzd] he isn't
[20:18] [ormuzd] the only time he has played it, he has done 0 micromanagement
[20:18] [ormuzd] we had riots next turn
[20:18] [ormuzd] production delays in two cities
[20:18] [ormuzd]
[20:18] [Krill] jesus, I stand corected.
[20:18] [ormuzd] I think the sad side is I'm the only one aware of the things going in that game
[20:19] [ormuzd] everyone else is looking at the reports (not likely) and the screenshots I'm posting
[20:19] [ormuzd] wrong save downloaded
[20:19] [Krill] Could you send me thte save? I don't recieve them anymore...
[20:19] [Krill] what wrong save?
[20:20] [ormuzd] my absent mindness has reached its peak levels today
[20:20] [ormuzd] (I hope this made any sense for you )
[20:21] [Krill] Oh, I know EXACTLY what you mean...
[20:21] [ormuzd] any news from DR?
[20:21] [ormuzd] it seems they don't agree for the math trade
[20:22] [ormuzd] I think they should be the second we will destroy
[20:22] [Krill] I posted the reply, but i did not write a response, as I wanted you to have a look before I did
[20:22] [ormuzd] Nothing has changed. We are happy to have you warriors scout around us, so long as they don't enter our territory.
[20:22] [ormuzd] not "happy"
[20:23] [ormuzd] rather "no problem if you need to scout more"
[20:23] [ormuzd] I have posted our chat with PLATO
[20:23] [ormuzd] did you read it?
[20:24] [ormuzd] Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are are not out to get you. Basically, camping on someones iron/horses is considered either a prelude, or an act of, war.
[20:24] [ormuzd] I think this is not needed
[20:24] [ormuzd] we just need to be polite no matter if we are going to stab them or be friends
[20:25] [Krill] in that chat they are talking about the Babs, not DR
[20:25] [ormuzd] [14:56:05] PLATO:
[20:25] [ormuzd] I am sure that we would be willing to commit a couple of warriors or scouts to move in that direction to watch the approaches on the northern side if you would be willing to do the same on the southern side.
[20:26] [ormuzd] did I understand wrong?
[20:26] [ormuzd] I ithought they will scout to the north
[20:26] [ormuzd] not to the east of our lands
[20:27] [Krill] I'm rereading now, may be a while
[20:28] [ormuzd] It is best to send any message that is to be sent by either PM or Email to both of us, because there are times when either one of us is not able to access the web, for one reason or another.
[20:28] [ormuzd] I'm available whole day at icq, msn and yahoo
[20:29] [ormuzd] .
[20:29] [ormuzd] I'm sorry, I was never informed of this (if it was a chat, it was because they aren't posted.) I'm more than happy to talk about this, but I'm afraid I cann't give it the nesacerry attention it would deserve right now. Perhaps you could send us some details, and we can then hammer out a deal?
[20:29] [ormuzd] this should be changed to "we are working on a proposal and we will send it soon" or something like this
[20:29] [ormuzd] and we really should
[20:31] [ormuzd] oh, ok, too many notices
[20:31] [ormuzd] when you are ready we will discuss
[20:31] [Krill] all day? what abut whn you brther iis oone thee computer
[20:31] [Krill] all day? what about when your brother is on the computer?
[20:34] [ormuzd] while he is working with it I can't play civ for example 
[20:42] [Krill] OK, I'm reaady too go ver the save
[20:43] [Krill] Let me rephrase that. I am ready too look over the save whenever you are
[20:45] [ormuzd] I'm ready too
[20:45] [ormuzd] clear table with DR and exit
[20:46] [ormuzd] Fowler - road
[20:46] [ormuzd] Troll - road (connect horses)
[20:46] [ormuzd] both settlers build
[20:47] [Krill] Lets name the cities. you name one, I name the other?
[20:48] [ormuzd] ok
[20:48] [Krill] what is yours?
[20:48] [ormuzd] Thieves' Guild
[20:49] [ormuzd] The Invisible University
[20:49] [ormuzd] can't remember other ffamous buildings now
[20:50] [Krill] Want to name the camps after city watch houses?
[20:50] [Krill] Pseudopolis yard
[20:50] [ormuzd] ok
[20:50] [Krill] Treacle mine Road
[20:50] [Krill] just examples
[20:51] [ormuzd] Good, the iron city will be Pseudopolis Yard
[20:51] [ormuzd] the Horse city will be Treacle Mine Road
[20:51] [ormuzd] (too many hills and mountains - many mines)
[20:51] [Krill] good point
[20:52] [Krill] HMGV - moves to cover the workers of th jungle?
[20:54] [ormuzd] maybe
[20:55] [ormuzd] I really hope we will be not attacked at Pseudo
[20:55] [ormuzd] good, 4-7-7
[20:57] [Krill] If wee re attcked, I think we have good chaces of holding everything.
[20:58] [Krill] However, I think it is prudent to set Heliopolis to 6spt. When we next get the save, we cann cycle backwards through the cities, too see if w still hold PY
[20:59] [Krill] If we don't, we would build a spear in Helio, to help hold Home
[21:00] [ormuzd] no
[21:00] [ormuzd] this is a chea
[21:02] [Krill] sinnce when was using F1 a cheat? So long as we never alter the tiles worked (which is a cheat), and only alter the unit/improovmennt produuceed
[21:02] [ormuzd] better build a spear in Helio
[21:02] [ormuzd] we will have plenty of time to build veteran chariots
[21:03] [ormuzd] no, never cycle cities before you have unit conotrl
[21:03] [ormuzd] the best way to prevent this is select next build from the drop-down and press OK
[21:03] [ormuzd] this is only recommendation of course
[21:07] [Krill] I just want to point out that it is allowable to use this in the PTW ISDG, PTWDG, PTWDG2. It was never banned, and it is one of the main tools used in a prebuild
[21:08] [ormuzd] hm
[21:09] [ormuzd] never seen it allowed
[21:09] [ormuzd] we can build chariot next turn this way
[21:09] [ormuzd] and move carrot in Helio
[21:09] [ormuzd] etc.
[21:10] [Krill] yeah, carrot 6 then
[21:11] [Krill] build the spear then
[21:14] [ormuzd] poleaxe fortify
[21:14] [ormuzd] caracen 9
[21:15] [ormuzd] cohen - 4
[21:15] [ormuzd] grog 6
[21:16] [Krill] carrot 6?
[21:16] [ormuzd] yes
[21:16] [Krill] scary thing is that we are number one in MFG and GNP gain
[21:17] [ormuzd] of course
[21:17] [ormuzd] we will get a punch to all those teams
[21:17] [ormuzd]
[21:18] [Krill] closest is at 17MFG, next is 16
[21:19] [ormuzd] we should build the pyramids
[21:19] [Krill] GNP: 26 is second, 2 are at 25
[21:19] [ormuzd] and the SoZ
[21:19] [ormuzd] can you tell me how do we have 3% literacy?
[21:20] [Krill] yeah, we'd gt a GA and a pop explosion when everybody has finished settling the map
[21:20] [Krill] no idea
[21:21] [Krill] 30 turns and already the game is messed up.
[21:22] [ormuzd] just kidding
[21:22] [ormuzd] but some micro
[21:22] [ormuzd] move memphis 33 to 4
[21:22] [ormuzd] one shiled less which will be compensated next turn when we have 2 food more than needed
[21:23] [Krill] Meemphis 7 is better, we get more commerce
[21:23] [Krill] nd moree shields over all
[21:24] [ormuzd] agree
[21:24] [ormuzd] I was going to suggest it
[21:24] [ormuzd] after this move Home 6 to 4
[21:25] [ormuzd] and give that tile to Pseudo
[21:25] [ormuzd] TMR wf 7-8 to 7-6
[21:25] [ormuzd] don't know why was it there placed
[21:26] [Krill] are we setting helioo to 6 spt?
[21:27] [Krill] because if we are, we don't actually need to alter Memphis' WF
[21:27] [Krill] Helioo WF - 6,7,8
[21:27] [Krill] TMR - 74
[21:28] [Krill] Memphis - 33,36,1
[21:28] [ormuzd] TMR 7-4 sorry
[21:28] [Krill] home 2,21,3
[21:28] [Krill] PY - 4
[21:29] [ormuzd] helio - 7,8,99
[21:30] [Krill] Homee needs the cow too groow iin two turns
[21:30] [ormuzd] home - but this will shut down helio
[21:31] [Krill] won't make a difference
[21:31] [Krill] lettiing Home grow puts every buildiing there (which is mostly militry) one turn ahead than othrwise
[21:34] [ormuzd] if we have population 3 we can make 7 spt
[21:34] [ormuzd] with 4 - 9 spt
[21:36] [Krill] OK, do it your way. I have seen the light
[21:38] [ormuzd] do you think I'm right?
[21:38] [Krill] yes.
[21:38] [ormuzd] I'm not quite sure which is better
[21:38] [ormuzd] ok
[21:39] [ormuzd] on your responsibility
[21:39] [ormuzd] move Mill. Hand & Sh. out of Helio?
[21:39] [Krill] both are good. My way speeds the capital, but your way spreads the load
[21:40] [ormuzd] we will not loose any shields my way
[21:40] [Krill] where would we move him?
[21:40] [ormuzd] everything will be used to 100%
[21:40] [Krill] and that
[21:40] [ormuzd] maybe 8
[21:40] [ormuzd] to help other cities
[21:40] [Krill] do it.
[21:41] [Krill] I like that. I really like that.
[21:41] [ormuzd] +2 gold, -1 turn until Math
[21:42] [ormuzd] only from 2 new cities and some micro
[21:42] [ormuzd] the future seems bright
[21:42] [ormuzd] I really hope those punny little red warriors will get away
[21:43] [ormuzd] still only two teams posses the literature
[21:44] [ormuzd] I think this is all
[21:44] [ormuzd] we need to prepare our response to BOH and I'll go to sleep
[21:44] [ormuzd] ISDG will be played tomorrow ~14:00 GMT
[21:44] [ormuzd] if you want to join me and this is too early for you we can set another time
[21:45] [Krill] OK, if you want you can recheck the draft. edit it all you want
[21:45] [ormuzd] fine
[21:46] [ormuzd] save sent
[21:52] [ormuzd] made some changes only at the end
[21:53] [Krill] fine, no problem
[21:56] [ormuzd] I'm going to post initial border agreement
[21:58] [ormuzd] I think we could try to ask for more
[21:58] [ormuzd] but I'm going to sleep now
[21:58] [ormuzd] we should think about it and send it to them
[21:58] [ormuzd] sooner is better for us
[21:58] [ormuzd] because they are expanding really fast
[22:00] [Krill] should i send tthe edited version of the letter, and a blanked out version of the border map?
[22:04] [ormuzd] the letter - yes
[22:04] [ormuzd] the border - not yet IMO
[22:04] [Krill] I'll uplooaad my newe version oof it.
[22:06] [Krill] you have not posted that you have sent the save.
[22:45] [Krill] cya
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19-04-2005 19:49
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