27-04-2005 16:03									#1
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quote: A380 takes off for maiden flight The world's largest passenger plane, the Airbus A380, is on its long-awaited maiden flight. Thousands of aeroplane enthusiasts, many of them clapping and cheering, witnessed the twin-deck "superjumbo" taking to the air for the first time. The flight was due to last between two and four hours, depending on weather conditions and how the plane handled. It took off from its production site in Toulouse, France with a crew of six and about 20 tonnes of test equipment.

Full article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4488361.stm

So let's wait how long it takes to turn this thread into a silly Boeing vs. Airbus discussion

	27-04-2005 16:11									#2
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Produced on-time and over-budget.

	27-04-2005 16:14									#3
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That is one big muthafukka.

	27-04-2005 16:29									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Produced on-time and over-budget.

	27-04-2005 16:37									#5
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so there are more international flights?

those are about the only ones they need big planes for, right?

JM

	27-04-2005 16:38									#6
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	27-04-2005 16:45									#7
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ChinA380

	27-04-2005 17:27									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller so there are more international flights? those are about the only ones they need big planes for, right? JM

There are lots of plane journeys that neither start or finish in the united states!

	27-04-2005 17:52									#10
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****ing awesome....

	27-04-2005 18:50									#11
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Impressive

	27-04-2005 18:56									#12
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Very impressive. One fine piece of work.

I like the interior of the new Boeing 787 too, though.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher Very impressive. One fine piece of work. I like the interior of the new Boeing 787 too, though. ...images..

Reminds me of space movies in the 60s, somehow.

	27-04-2005 19:06									#14
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Exactly how many billions in subsidies did Airbus get for this airplane?

	27-04-2005 19:10									#15
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Exactly how many billions in subsidies did Airbus get for this airplane?

$6.5B US.

	27-04-2005 19:11									#16
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How many have Boeing received? Pointless argument. They've both received loads. Hopefully reduce them both to nothing though...

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busin...boeingeu12.html

But total development costs were £6 billion apparently.

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quote: Pointless argument.

No, the argument isn't pointless, considering that inasmuch as Boeing is receiving subsidies, I'm derisive of those as well.

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International business travel is increasing again. The key to the A380 success will be how fast airlines will be able to get out of their current 747 lease contracts and the load % they need to run the A380 profitably (with the exception of a few national airlines that are subsidized and do not need to worry about profits).

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quote: Originally posted by DanS No, the argument isn't pointless, considering that inasmuch as Boeing is receiving subsidies, I'm derisive of those as well.

Ok fine then.

Subsidise them all if it means we get cool stuff like this. Woo!

	27-04-2005 19:39									#20
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A380
GLARE(tm) developed by TU delft for the A380

	27-04-2005 20:42									#21
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As we say in Europe, the bigger the more beautiful.

Cool looking plane.

	27-04-2005 20:51									#22
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How many people can fit in that plane? Dolores heard 800!

	27-04-2005 21:07									#23
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840 in one-class configuration.

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You can already fit 800 in a 747 (but really crowded). The A380 is bigger, as in way bigger but is supposed to field 555 passengers in typical configuration.
It's also useable as a freighter given its huge carrying capacity, I don't remember which company bought some for that purpose.

	27-04-2005 21:10									#25
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Yes around 840 bodies at a crashsite

Though the standard version will have something like 550 seats or so.

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Ata, imagine if a terrorist got hold of such a huge thing with so many people!

I guess if Cathay or Philippine Airlines buys them I'll eventually be on one. I think I'll wait until they work the bugs out.

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quote: Originally posted by LDiCesare You can already fit 800 in a 747 (but really crowded). The A380 is bigger, as in way bigger but is supposed to field 555 passengers in typical configuration. It's also useable as a freighter given its huge carrying capacity, I don't remember which company bought some for that purpose.

Really crowded as in "isn't going to fly" maybe.. you have to remember that humans need space to put their legs somewhere.
I read the max for a 747 are 568 passangers.

	27-04-2005 21:21									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Ata, imagine if a terrorist got hold of such a huge thing with so many people! I guess if Cathay or Philippine Airlines buys them I'll eventually be on one. I think I'll wait until they work the bugs out.

Bah terrorists don't make me afraid...

How often do you travel between the Philipines and the US?

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Four trips in 7 years...

However we hope to go every winter starting soon. We might end up going in December, though nothing is sure. Wanna go if we go?

We're still working out the cost for staying in our house, but it will be somewhere around $200 for a month, including meals eaten in the house.

	27-04-2005 21:31									#30
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What is this behemoth like in terms of fuel consumption per person on board?