28-04-2005 23:50									#61
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Uhh that's right.. somehow I always mix it with Japan.. sorry.

As a large threat in the west, what I meant was that in the east it accepts Samsungs dominance and is not trying to fight it, the current situation. Where as in the west, it is trying to fight Samsung and other companies as well. I shouldn't have used the word threat, it is misleading.

Nokia has accepted the domain of Samsung to be in the east, and the domain of Motorola to be in the US (with Samsung), and after a good start and then slow season and outright mistakes, which is what you said, neglecting the flippable phones, they are trying to make a second coming,by that I mean to establish a clear dominance.

And again, I have to agree with you and Asher on something, that it was again at thing everyone seemed to know except executives at Nokia, that the markets needs more stylish design, more accurately the flip phones.

And yes, of course everyoen is doing a race in China.

But I'm not interested in discussing about Nokia and their deeds in the world. So yeah, end of discussion as far as I go.

	28-04-2005 23:52									#62
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q cubed, you can stop with the trivial ways now, it would be appreciated (sony ericsson, other phoens having these features which I have said earlier already) etc etc. If you want to correct me, do that somewhere it actually matters.

	28-04-2005 23:52									#63
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quote: ...and after a good start and then slow season and outright mistakes, which is what you said, neglecting the flippable phones, they are trying to make a second coming,by that I mean to establish a clear dominance.

Not just clamshells. Cameraphones, too. Y'know, the popular things.

As far as dominance, it's still anybody's game.

	28-04-2005 23:53									#64
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quote: If you want to correct me, do that somewhere it actually matters.

I already have.

	28-04-2005 23:54									#65
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quote: Uhh that's right.. somehow I always mix it with Japan.. sorry.

I don't care so much, but I can give you a bunch of forums where they do...


...they'll even cut their fingers off to spite you.

	28-04-2005 23:59									#66
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ok let's have peace. peace in the east... and .. breast in the west?

	29-04-2005 00:04									#67
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quote: ok let's have peace. peace in the east... and .. breast in the west?

Peace isn't cheap. We have to be egalitarian.

A breasty peace in the east, and a piecy breast in the west?

	29-04-2005 00:06									#68
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I'm not sure if I can agree with that. How about chicken wings and hot sauce, pina coladas, mucho margaritas and breast flapping show?

	29-04-2005 00:35									#69
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I think I could deal with that, so long as we have Kimchi and Sushi there as well.

	29-04-2005 00:41									#70
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Yes!

	29-04-2005 10:27									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Not like you have any taps on the grapevines

:whoosh:

I'll try to be less subtle next time.

	29-04-2005 12:37									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns It seems those who say that lack of landlines limits broadband have not heard of unwired internet access. Why build expensive wires everywhere when you can send the data through the air?

Broadband is faster than WiFi and WiMax. I don't think any city has WiMax and WiFi don't have the range. It's also insecure.

	30-04-2005 15:54									#73
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As much as I am a dyed in the wool Nokia lover, the new samsung e720 is a serious consideration for my next phone upgrade.

And I'm with Q Cubed. I'd love a day-to-day swiss army knife and then really high quality stuff for more important occassions.

	01-05-2005 19:16									#74
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Why doesn't the Samsung miniket include a phone? WHY??

	01-05-2005 19:54									#75
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A few years ago I would have looked at all this and said "bullbatter," but nowadays it looks like the combination cell phone-camera-mp3 player-etc. is nearly possible. And I applaud the day when it comes, because right now I have an old cell phone, an elf camera, and a CD player, and all of them are "good enough" for me, but no, I don't have the newest flip phone, the most expensive camera with all the lenses and flashes and everything, or the tiniest, best sounding mp3 player. So even "good enough" camera-phone-player will be improvement for me, because it'll reduce what I lug around (and subsequently worry about losing, getting stolen, whatever), vastly increase what I can do (for example, right now all I ALWAYS carry around is my phone, what am I supposed to do if I see Elvis and Bigfoot making out on the steps of a UFO--I left my camera at home), and, for the 2 weeks that my model of cameraphoneplayer is "hot", bring me back up to technological equality.

But eventually we can't call them "cell phones" any more. Because a phone is something you use to call people. I see people taking pictures, sending text messages, surfing the web, listening to music, playing games on their "phones". It is ridiculous. Back in my day you used phones to call people! I imagine someone out there doesn't even use their phone for calling people at all. Good grief.

	01-05-2005 19:57									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat ****amonkey! That's better than my camera.

I noticed Samsung has a phone/camera and a phone/mp3 player but not a phone/camera/mp3 player.

I do like the idea of an anti-bacterial finish to the phone though since people often spit when they speak on the phone.

Ideally my ultimate convergence device will be a phone/camera/mp3 player/GPS/palm pilot.

	01-05-2005 19:59									#77
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Half the time I just drop the latter part of the phrase "mobile phone" and just refer to it as a mobile. In fact most people I know just refer to them as mobiles....hmmm....

A tank drove straight through the city centre of Norwich while I was at the busstop. So glad I had my camera phone to capture it and show my friends. Yay distractions from exams.

	01-05-2005 22:41									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Ideally my ultimate convergence device will be a phone/camera/mp3 player/GPS/palm pilot.

I am not so sure about the PDA part, because the screen is too small on a mobile for such a purpose. Even the 3G ones don't have big enough screens.

	03-05-2005 19:08									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Ideally my ultimate convergence device will be a phone/camera/mp3 player/GPS/palm pilot.

That vibrates.

	03-05-2005 19:15									#80
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There's still a use in landline connections with DSL2 and stuff

	03-05-2005 19:30									#81
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Lets not forget the picture iPod too.

	03-05-2005 19:41									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin film is essentially going to go the way of the buggy whip.

Film will always be used, and prefered by many.


It will probably "go the way of the buggy whip" as far as the average consumer is concerned, but a great number of photographers will not give up developing their film.