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DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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No, embrace the dark side, it will make you more powerful!

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Which one did you go for first? Dark Age? That's the one I went for the first time. Didn't trust the Illuminati, didn't know if I could trust Helios.



Yes, Dark Age first and for exactly the same reasons as you give above! Regarding Helios it was the voice that was decisive... Scary!

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The Illuminati ending felt the least darkest to me. Everett seemed surprisingly true to his word about benevolent dictatorship



I agree, but the end quote is somewhat suspect, no?

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SS2 is even better with the graphic updates.



Fan-made or some kind of new release?

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It's too bad they didn't end up including some of the locations I read they were considering, though. For instance, the war zone in Texas. It would have been cool to see Ion Storm Austin trash their own home state.

There's some interesting stuff like that at

http://archive.gamespy.com/articles/april02/dxbible/

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I generally put myself in my characters shoes and do what I'd do in their place. The Illuminati.
It's the only ending that doesn't have irrevocable consequences.

Afterall one could always merge with Helios later, after the risks involved had been calculated. After it had been contained such that negative fallout could be controlled.

Or one could destroy the global commo hub, after the virus had been contained, the vaccine distributed and a semblance of order re-established everywhere.

Until then though I'd have to go with the mythical city on the hill ...


Yeah, I like the Illuminati ending now. But at the time I was making my decision, I of course hadn't seen the endings. For all I knew the Illuminati would stab me in the back the first chance they got. Thus, for all I knew, this might be my only chance to bring down Area 51 and its centralized power. Since I didn't feel I could trust anyone, I thought I had to destroy it while I still could.

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Learn to trust your friendly dictators.

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No, embrace the dark side, it will make you more powerful!



Well... I have to wait until it gets here...

I'm thinking about Grim Fandango (which I've started, but not finished, and liked a lot) or Half-Life (the original, which I haven't tried yet)... I also have Thief and Thief II...

I think I'll go for Grim Fandango... I enjoyed it + I want to finish it (and some other games too) before jumping into new ones...

Land of the Dead, here I come!

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Go for Grim Fandango, you won't regret it

And feel free to look up help on the web for the coffee pot thing near the end, I could never get it myself either That and the tumblers in that safe...

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ooh, grim fandango...

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Go for Grim Fandango, you won't regret it




quote:
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And feel free to look up help on the web for the coffee pot thing near the end, I could never get it myself either That and the tumblers in that safe...


Or the grinder thing...

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A great game, but one of the most (if not the most) fiendish games of all time.

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Fiendish? Hello dictionary!

I must say that, after Deus Ex, it feels kind of strange not to have an inventory with stated goals...

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Grim Fandango.

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Fiendish? Hello dictionary!

I must say that, after Deus Ex, it feels kind of strange not to have an inventory with stated goals...

Carolus


It means some of the puzzles are *very* hard, notoriously so in fact.

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yeah, I had to make use of a walkthrough for most of the harder puzzles...

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And hopes for a good sequel are also dashed.


Is all this anger only because they simplified the biomod system? I always thought that was, as some of you have said, a little broken in the original anyway. And it was bothersome too.

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Unfortunately that's not all they simplified.

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Played GF a little now... Cool and very funny dialogue!

I remember now why I never finished it... The game is difficult and when you're stuck without a clue it's frustrating to walk around in the same familiar surroundings (just like Riven)... Still, this time I'll finish it...

Strolled in town this afternoon and picked up three games for 149 SEK (about 15 Euros)...

Patrician II (looks promising), Risk II (I prefer this as a board game, but there really were no alternatives), and Atari Anniversary Edition featuring 12 classic games (including Asteroids, Missile Command, and Pong in original style! )...

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Unfortunately that's not all they simplified.


I'm not sure what specifically you're referring to..Although I haven't gotten more than 1/2 through the original, the sequel is definitely not a typical shooter game. There are still many ways to approach any problem, an interesting (and branching plot that lets you choose your alliance- probably moreso than the original), and lots of atmosphere.

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Fan-made or some kind of new release?

Carolus


Fan made, there are a number of mods, high res textures and improved models. The rebirth mod offers updated models.

http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60930#mods

Pretty good mod
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/etienne.aub...SR_Compar_1.jpg

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Ok, thanks!

ravagon, where are you wreaking havoc now?

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Ok, thanks!



You wont thank him when a graphically enhanced zombie or two is breathing down your neck.

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Heh, heh!

I'll launch some anti-zombies-breathing-down-my-neck-measures then...

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Heh, heh!

I'll launch some anti-zombies-breathing-down-my-neck-measures then...

Carolus


Sorry, they already have anti-anti-zombies-breathing-down-my-neck-measures.

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ravagon, where are you wreaking havoc now?


Heh.
There are days in which one wreaks havoc and then there are days in which one has havoc is wreaked upon oneself.
Sadly I am having many more of the latter lately and, IIRC, am still stuck in Vandenburg somewhere trying to reactivate a couple of power thingies ...

As best I recall I tried it several times but my new 'save-only-once-per-mission' tactic didn't quite work out as well as I'd hoped.

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Sorry, they already have anti-anti-zombies-breathing-down-my-neck-measures.


That should be anti-anti-zombies-breathing-down-my-neck-measures-measures.

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That should be anti-anti-zombies-breathing-down-my-neck-measures-measures.


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It's been a while, but I remember highly disliking Vandenburg. All those damned robots...

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Robots aren't too bad, especially when you can unleash some of your own.

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I played some Deus Ex MP last night with a collegue... The idea was to play on a server with a lot of players, collaborating to increase our chances...

So, I logged on... First character I get in the cross-hair is a friend (ie green), so I pass by him ("Hello team-mate!" )... Then I suddenly die...

I respawn, charge some weapons and run off... Get a person in the aim, another greenie ("Hello team-mate!" ) so I pass him... Then I suddenly die...

I respawn again, get some weapons and run out in the field... Another team-mate pops up and I decide to stay with him as there seems to be invisible snipers everywhere... Maybe they'll take him out instead... To my surprise, my "team-mate" takes some shots at me and kills me... Huh?

Turns out it's everybody for himself (I must have been shot in the back by my "team-mates")... One, giant mass-slaughter! Later I ran into a scene with 4 or 5 players shooting at each other, I took out 1 or 2 before dying myself... When you're dead you can "see" what's happening at the spot you died if you choose not to respawn... My killer dies seconds after me... And so it goes... Complete chaos; insane, but quite fun!

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Deus Ex MP is silly - play a proper FPS.

 
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