01-05-2005 18:54									#1
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I always feel an obligation to point out that communists don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to priorities and reasonable thought process.
Here's an example.

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TOKYO - The U.S. military informed Japan that North Korea may have fired a short-range missile toward the Sea of Japan on Sunday morning, Kyodo News service and national broadcaster NHK reported.

The reports quoted unidentified government sources as saying that the U.S. military informed Japan's Defense Agency of the possible missile launch. The government was attempting to confirm the information, the reports said.

The U.S. Embassy in Tokyo and the U.S. military both refused to comment, and an official at the Japanese Defense Agency said he could not confirm the report. The South Korean defense ministry also said it could not confirm the account.

NHK said the missile was believed to have been fired from the reclusive nation's east coast and to have traveled 65 miles into the Sea of Japan.

Word of the possible test came just days after a top U.S. military intelligence official told a U.S. Senate committee that North Korea has the ability to arm a missile with a nuclear weapon, a potentially significant advance for the communist state.

Vice Adm. Lowell Jacoby, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, in testimony on Thursday, did not specify whether he was talking about a short-range missile or a long-range one that could reach the United States.

Two defense officials later said that U.S. intelligence analysts believe North Korea is several years away from being able to mount a nuclear warhead on a missile that could reach the United States from the Korean Peninsula.

North Korea's missile development program has spurred Japan to join the United States in putting together a joint missile-defense system. North Korea startled Tokyo in 1998 by launching a long-range ballistic missile over the Japanese archipelago and into the Pacific Ocean.

Pyongyang has played upon the threat by intermittently test-firing short-range missiles since then.

The Japanese Cabinet in February approved legislation that would allow the defense chief to order the military to shoot down incoming missiles.

Six-nation talks aimed at persuading North Korea to give up its nuclear ambitions have been stalled since last June. Washington's top envoy on the issue, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill, said on Thursday in South Korea that the North's refusal to return to the talks is a problem but they are still the best way to resolve the matter.

	01-05-2005 18:57									#2
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand I always feel an obligation to point out that communists don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to priorities and reasonable thought process. Here's an example.

Oh my gosh, a country fires a missile!?! The world is coming to an end!!!

And here I thought I missed you.

	01-05-2005 19:13									#3
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They "may have fired" one? What's with all those little surveillance thingies, radar sites, satellites and stuff that are supposed to tell us exactly what happened?

I mean, when WWIII breaks out, do they tell us that the enemy may have launched ICBMs but we can't be sure until they arrive?

	01-05-2005 20:38									#4
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro They "may have fired" one? What's with all those little surveillance thingies, radar sites, satellites and stuff that are supposed to tell us exactly what happened? I mean, when WWIII breaks out, do they tell us that the enemy may have launched ICBMs but we can't be sure until they arrive?

Actually yes, we won't know for sure until it hits the ground. Hence Launch on Confirmed, and Launch on Warning policies.

	01-05-2005 21:32									#5
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North Korea says it fired a short ranged (100 mi.) missle from it's east coast. Wouldn't that make it land somewhere close to Russia? I wonder how happy the Ruskies are with that? Maybe they'll fire one back.

	01-05-2005 21:50									#6
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We should fire one back.

	01-05-2005 22:13									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha Actually yes, we won't know for sure until it hits the ground. Hence Launch on Confirmed, and Launch on Warning policies.

Really? I mean how do we know then when a plane penetrates our airspace (and here I'm pretty sure that we can know this for sure)....

I thought that's what things like NORAD are for (in case of the US) - to detect what comes in, planes, missiles?

	01-05-2005 22:14									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Ned We should fire one back.

	01-05-2005 22:15									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Ned We should fire one back.

Easy to say when it's another country's problem.

	01-05-2005 22:51									#10
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Oh my gosh, a country fires a missile!?! The world is coming to an end!!!

Precisely. Any other countries test firing missiles is bad. Esp. if they are "communist" or the French.

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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove North Korea says it fired a short ranged (100 mi.) missle from it's east coast. Wouldn't that make it land somewhere close to Russia?

Uhhhh....no. Not unless it was travelling north

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	01-05-2005 23:12									#12
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Really? I mean how do we know then when a plane penetrates our airspace (and here I'm pretty sure that we can know this for sure).... I thought that's what things like NORAD are for (in case of the US) - to detect what comes in, planes, missiles?

we can know to a very high degree of probability, but until theres a mushroom cloud, we don't know for sure. accidents have happened in the past, there was an incident in the 80s where faulty Russian equipment indicated a miniscule first strike from the US. luckily their guy in charge was alert.

	01-05-2005 23:14									#13
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So North Korea tests its missiles.

Great, at least we'll know if they're likely to be able to nuke San Fransisco.

10 bucks says that Southern Religious Conservatives would secretly welcome the nuking of Sodom Fransisco.

	01-05-2005 23:25									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Precisely. Any other countries test firing missiles is bad. Esp. if they are "communist" or the French.

Or pyschotic.

	02-05-2005 00:19									#15
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Uhhhh....no. Not unless it was travelling north http://es.rice.edu/projects/Poli378...ia_regional.gif

Northeast. A point 100 miles east of the east coast of NK is alot closer to Russia than it is to Japan.

	02-05-2005 00:25									#16
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Only if it's from the northern part of the east coast.

The missile was almost certainly directed eastward. No part of its trajectory ever threatened Russia. Tracking at least 45 degrees off any possible intercept.

	02-05-2005 00:25									#17
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Plus, why is everybody getting worked up?

100 mile range for a missile test is a joke...

	02-05-2005 00:37									#18
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Let's show NK what a real missile is like

	02-05-2005 00:45									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Verto Let's show NK what a real missile is like

Why?

Let Japan or Russia do it. Unless it was shot at us and fell just a little short......

ACK!

	02-05-2005 02:27									#20
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what is worse: North Korea may GO NUCULAR!

	02-05-2005 02:33									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed Easy to say when it's another country's problem.

	02-05-2005 02:38									#22
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The time has come for N. Korea to cease as a nation. I hate seeing divided nations. Vietnam as one country, germany is one country, and now Korea should be one country.

although I guess you could say the time has come for S. Korea to cease as a nation, but lets be realistic.

	02-05-2005 02:39									#23
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Or Canada!

	02-05-2005 02:40									#24
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Very true, we need to give them official statehood.

	02-05-2005 02:40									#25
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Don't forget Osterreich

	02-05-2005 02:40									#26
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ah, that makes sense in Vicky terms. there's that cute thing Vicky in my latin course though...

	02-05-2005 02:40									#27
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The people of north korea should be wiped from the face of the planet for this atrocity.

	02-05-2005 02:41									#28
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the people?

	02-05-2005 02:42									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion ah, that makes sense in Vicky terms. there's that cute thing Vicky in my latin course though...

Damn, how many languages do you know? Like 50?

	02-05-2005 02:43									#30
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand I always feel an obligation to point out that communists don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to priorities and reasonable thought process.

To make yourself look like an idiot?