04-05-2005 04:08									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon They aren't really for games. I mean, I'll probably play Vicky, EUII and RON on mine, but WOW or anything like that? No thanks.

Well, I have a fairly long experience of laptops (since 1999), and a long experience on gaming on laptops. My 1999 laptop was high hend (128 Mb RAM), but was still under the idea that a laptop wasn't made for gaming. And as such, the video card sucked horrible (2MB video RAM, whereas 8Mb was the low standard fare on desktops). That's why I couldn't even play Arcanum on that computer.

When I bought my current laptop, in Sept. 2002, every game ran perfectly (GTA3, UT2003, etc), because the laptop makers finally understood that the new audience wants to play games. As of today, it remains an adequate machine for games (I can play X2, Warcraft3, and of course EU2/Vickie without problems), but it begins to show some weakness. If I could change the CPU (the only thing that is really below today's standards), the comp would be kicking.

So, a laptop can be made for games. At least, that's my experience of having my game station on a laptop for years

But then again, my next computer will be a desktop. It's much cheaper for the same bang.

	04-05-2005 04:09									#62
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quote: I reckon that's pretty good value as well.

For 2K it is. That's over twice the price of mine.

	04-05-2005 04:10									#63
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quote: You'd buy one of those ultra cheap Dells? We had one of those in our lab. Ugh....

Your generic hate for Windows doesn't exactly strengthen your case here, especially when Dell machines don't necessarily suck.

Their laptops? Usually, yes, they suck. Their workstations? Not really, in fact, most are quite good...

	04-05-2005 04:10									#64
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	04-05-2005 04:10									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: Unfortunately that's not enough for me to be able to afford both an iMac and an iBook. Why both? Just buy a cheap flat panel ($2-300) a keyboard and mouse ($50) and a 12" Powerbook. You can use the Powerbook with the keyboard, monitor and mouse as a desktop system and take it with you when you need to.

You don't comprehend my ability to envision fantastic spending sprees.

My iMac is set up on a chic glass desk, free of clutter due to my opting for Bluetooth and AirPort (which along with AirTunes also allows me to play my music library through my home theater system).

Meanwhile, my iBook and iPod would ensure I'm the sexiest man at the cafe through which I'd be wirelessly browsing poly during a break between classes.

This entire lifestyle is of course funded through my pending lawsuit against some multi-billion dollar corporation in which I will be awarded a vast sum of money.

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	04-05-2005 04:10									#66
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quote: For 2K it is. That's over twice the price of mine.

Yes. I had more demanding computing needs than you did, at the time.

Namely, 3d gaming. Which I don't do much anymore.

	04-05-2005 04:12									#67
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quote: Their laptops? Usually, yes, they suck. Their workstations? Not really, in fact, most are quite good...

This was one of the ultra cheap ones. Besides the software, it sucked. I have seen better.

Back in the 90s Dell stuff used to be all good. I wonder what happened.

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quote: Meanwhile, my iBook and iPod would ensure I'm the sexiest man at the cafe through which I'd be wirelessly browsing poly during a break between classes.

If there's a guy with a Powerbook, he'll pwn you with the ladies.

	04-05-2005 04:14									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: Meanwhile, my iBook and iPod would ensure I'm the sexiest man at the cafe through which I'd be wirelessly browsing poly during a break between classes. If there's a guy with a Powerbook, he'll pwn you with the ladies.

The Powerbooks don't appeal to me as much, though.

Especially the price

EDIT: Or rather, the price is what keeps me from them.

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quote: The Powerbooks don't appeal to me as much, though. Especially the price

Chicks love wealth...

...except my wife.

	04-05-2005 04:16									#71
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On the plus side, I've got a small amount of stocks (400 dollars worth or so I bought on a whim) which are expected to do quite nicely, goin from 10-20 dollars above what I bought them at, so maybe I'll have a bit of extra cash.

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quote: You don't comprehend my ability to envision fantastic spending sprees. My iMac is set up on a chic glass desk, free of clutter due to my opting for Bluetooth and AirPort (which along with AirTunes also allows me to play my music library through my home theater system).

Luser.

My g4 cube (magic dumpster purchase. go me!) with a few tweaks, such as lots more memory, a new graphics card, and a new hard disk on a chic glass desk, with a 17-inch samsung lcd screen. another two 21-inch samsung lcd screens to the right of the g4, connected to my x86 box, which is sitting under the desk. two keyboards and mice, one for the g4, and the other for the x86; the x86 keyboard/mice would be connected to a kvm switch, which hooks up to my third x86 box, this one nice and small and quiet--my server.

quote: Meanwhile, my iBook and iPod would ensure I'm the sexiest man at the cafe through which I'd be wirelessly browsing poly during a break between classes.

Meanwhile, I'd use my laptop for portability and eschew the ipod, allowing my scuzzy, geeked out look to drive away any potential mates while i'd be wirelessly browsing away at a cafe.

quote: This entire lifestyle is of course funded through my pending lawsuit against some multi-billion dollar corporation in which I will be awarded a vast sum of money.

quote: omg im turning gay

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	04-05-2005 04:17									#73
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quote: Chicks love wealth... ...except my wife.

...isn't she socialist as well?

	04-05-2005 04:20									#74
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@ Aggie, since he owns a powerbook.

Do you use the touchpad? if so, have you noticed it "wearing out" after a while; that is, the pad becoming worn smooth, so that moving the cursor is a burden? I've encountered this problem with current Toshiba laptop.

	04-05-2005 04:22									#75
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Student discounts are nice:

12'' iBook

• 512MB DDR266 SDRAM (256MB built-in & 256MB SO-DIMM)
• 30GB Ultra ATA drive
• Combo drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
• AirPort Extreme Card
• Bluetooth Module
• iWork '05 preinstalled
• Keyboard & Mac OS X - U.S. English
• 12-inch TFT XGA display
• 1.2GHz PowerPC G4
• ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 w/ 32MB DDR video memory

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12'' PowerBook

• 512MB DDR333 (256MB built-in + 256MB SO-DIMM)
• 80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400rpm
• 8x SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
• AirPort Extreme Card
• Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
• 1.5GHz PowerPC G4
• NVIDIA GeForce FX GO 5200 with 64MB DDR Video Memory
• 12.1-inch TFT Display

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	04-05-2005 04:24									#77
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quote: @ Aggie, since he owns a powerbook.

Eh? I said I'm probably buying one this week or next week. I need a portable and I getting a nice contract this summer, so I'm waiting for the official notice before I waltz down to the store..

	04-05-2005 04:25									#78
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Oh, I thought you said you were buying a new one.

Commoner

	04-05-2005 04:26									#79
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hate hate hate touchpads. touchpoints all the way.

	04-05-2005 04:26									#80
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Are touchpoints the annoying little buttons in the middle of the keyboard?

	04-05-2005 04:27									#81
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Touchpoints .

I'm not fond of the touchpad either.

	04-05-2005 04:28									#82
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I'd rather get a Bluetooth mouse than anything.

	04-05-2005 04:29									#83
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optical mouse > regular mouse > touchpoint > touchpad > trackball.

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quote: Oh, I thought you said you were buying a new one.

Yeah I am. That doesn't mean I own an old one. I could be buying an old one if I wanted to.

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Wired mouse works well. Much better than the rest IMO (you can forget about games without a mouse, and should you use wireless mouse, you can forget about not having an insane battery budget )

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Kuci - do not get a laptop with 32MB of video memory. 64MB will probably been needed to run Longhorn if it ever comes out. Do you want this for work, or for play?

School. But I want to be able to play games on it.

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: Frankly, we shouldn't be arguing about Mac vs. Windows. Kuci's quite clearly said he wants Windows, and a Laptop. Well he's dumb. We should at least try to convince him to use Gentoo.

It's because I'm going to be using it for my computer courses, so I need a Windows/Linux environment, not a Mac one. I'm going to install a dual boot linux OS.

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Amazon.com is offering the 17'' iMac for 1,099 bucks

	04-05-2005 04:46									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker School. But I want to be able to play games on it.

Prepare your cash then. 2,000 will buy you an acceptable game rig, that will be useless in two to three years, at most.

It it's all the money you saved since you're 12, prepare to save the same amount posthaste, and be prepared to regularily lose all your monies on computers until you really work.

	04-05-2005 04:48									#90
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Just buy a budget PC/notebook and Xbox360.

You'll come out several hundred dollars ahead, and have a real gaming platform