15-05-2005 02:17									#61
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rah has a syntax error and needs to be rebooted.

ACK!

	15-05-2005 03:19									#62
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We all get busy at work sometimes. He's done a fine job so far. I love it when the people who have not been a gm complain. Once you do it, you won't anymore.

	15-05-2005 03:35									#63
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Spaced

Even if you do have the time, making an update can sometimes seem like an insurmountable task. Cut your GM some slack

	15-05-2005 03:42									#64
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And as Rah has previously stated, this game in particular gets confusing with people sending in multiple sets of orders, I for one don't know if everyone is in yet, and while Rah probably has a better idea then I do, I imagine it is quite confusing.

Of the 7 of us, Spaced, Jonny, Kassiopeia, gjramsey and I have all posted sent messages leaving only Tuberski and Vovan....but perhaps they have either sent and not posted or sent in previous multiple turn orders? ) Edit: Actually looking back further Tuberski sent in multiple turn orders last turn, so perhaps Vovan has yet to get orders in.

Either way, it is the weekend and i don't think any of the racers are in any hurry to get the turn results. After all if Rah rushes the turn there may be a mistake made

* Sparrowhawk

	15-05-2005 03:45									#65
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I don't really fancy sending orders for several consecutive turns at a time, it's not like I'm ever going to be that away from the computer

Of course the only reason I'm aching for an update is to see if I'll be able to mangle #3 on the third consecutive turn.

	15-05-2005 03:54									#66
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After those multiple pm's we exchanged where it was agreed that you would turn and I would go straight......you would go back on your word and betray an agreement?

I cannot see Kassiopeia doing something so vile!!



* Sparrowhawk

Disclaimer: This message in no way refers to Sparrowhawk's public bitterness about betrayal in other forum games and any similarily between this post and previously written posts in other threads is a coincidence and not the intended purpose of said post.










oh and by the way, we didn't really pm or discuss anything about the game, but I am still pretty sure he is going to turn and I am going to go straight

	15-05-2005 03:56									#67
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Awww, spoilsport

Oh, and I don't think I have betrayed you in a FG... or have I? If so, it has been an isolated incident, I avoid backstabbing like the plague, whether I am the target or not.

	15-05-2005 04:01									#68
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No you haven't.

I have a short list of 2 people who have betrayed me , and a longer list of people who haven't

As for being a "spoilsport" you didn't really think that we were going to go the same direction did you? It seems obvious that we were going to do in opposite directions here.

	15-05-2005 04:06									#69
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Considering that we're all out to wreck your car, I was thinking a max speed of 9 would be just a bit too little to not pit.

	15-05-2005 05:52									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Spaced Cowboy We all get busy at work sometimes. He's done a fine job so far. I love it when the people who have not been a gm complain. Once you do it, you won't anymore.

Who's complaining? I'm merely bumping the thread since I enjoy it and it's been a couple of days. rah is a busy fellow, I know this and I have always been appreciative at how he juggles time between work, family, modship, Civ2MP, drunken golf, Friday nights at Ming's, and participation in various forum games. Not to mention all the Ming jokes.

	15-05-2005 06:49									#71
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Point taken CW, I was mainly trying to goad you into participating...we always could use another playa!

	15-05-2005 07:13									#72
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Too complicated for me and my attention span is too short to allow me to consider joining. IOW, I'm still uncertain about game mechanics (haven't taken time or made the effort to really look) and there's a possibility I'd want to stop playing partway through the game which means I'd have to quit, an abhorrent thought, or force myself to continue playing, which would rather kill all the fun. Thus I merely lurk, watching the numbers dance around the track and smash into the 3 car repeatedly

	15-05-2005 17:53									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk Edit: Actually looking back further Tuberski sent in multiple turn orders last turn, so perhaps Vovan has yet to get orders in.

Duuuude! Look at the first post after the last update!

	16-05-2005 03:56									#74
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TURN 36

code:


                          *******
                         *********   
                         ****   ***
                          ***    ***
                         ***     ***
                        ***      ***  
                       ***       *** 
                      *O*        **O  
                     ***         *O* 
                    O**          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          **O*   
                    **O           ****
                    ***            **** 
                    ***             ****
                    ***              ==== end alley  
                    ***               *xx* 16 
                    *5*                *Sx* 15 
                  *******               *SxS 14 
                  *******                *SSx 13 
                  *******                 *xSx 12 
                  *******                  SSxS 11 
                  *******                   xSSx 10
                  *******                    SSxS 9 
                  ********                    SxSx 8 
                  *********                    xSSS 7  
                  **********                    SxSS 6 
                  **3**** **2                    SSxS 5
                  *******  **                     xSSx 4 
                  *******  ##-speed limit          SSxS 3   
                  *******  **     6                 SSSx 2
                  *******  **                        xSSx 1 
                  *******  **                         ====  start
                  *******  **                     ***O****   sandtrap
                  *******  4P-pit stop           ********     alley
                  *******  **  marker           ********   
      finish line =======  **                  ***  
                  *******  **                 ***
                  *******  **                *** 
                  *******  **               *** 
                  *******  ##-end limit    **O 
                  ******* ***             ***    
                  **********        *********
                  *********        ********* 
                  ********        ********* 
                  *******        *** 
                  ******        *** 
                  *****        ***
                  ****        *O*
                  ****       *** 
                  **61      ***
                   ***     *** 
                    ***     ***
                     ***     ***
                      ***     **O
                       O**     ***
                        ***     ***
                         ***    ***
                          **** ****
                           *******
                            ****7


MAX=Max speed
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC    MAX  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **     **  ****  **********
 1.   Spaced Cowboy         S       7     3     21  turb  AA(5M)L(3M)BB
 2.   Kassiopeia           SE       8     1     14  turb  BML(7M)B
 3.   Sparrowhawk           S       9     4      9  perf  M9
 4.   gjramsey              S       4     2     21  turb  B(M4)
 5.   Tuberski              S      10     3     12  sway  ALMMMMMMMMM
 6.   Jonny                 S       7     4     14  sway  A(m5)L(m1)
 7.   Vovan                NE      12     1     12  sway  ML(8M)L(2M)

Last edited by rah on 16-05-2005 at 17:53

	16-05-2005 04:12									#75
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While heading S saves me an R, I don't need to save that R, and I'm fairly sure I'm heading SE.

	16-05-2005 04:49									#76
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Same here, I should be heading south. Also the text should say me and Jonny.

	16-05-2005 09:02									#77
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quote: Originally posted by vovan Duuuude! Look at the first post after the last update!

Oops my mistake. Sorry!!

Sent

* Sparrowhawk

Edit: Looks like something screwed up on the track ahead. On the turns before the sandbag alley, the track has changed, perhaps this can be edited before we get there

	16-05-2005 17:53									#78
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All fixed, I hope.

	16-05-2005 19:29									#79
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	16-05-2005 19:33									#80
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Sent.

	16-05-2005 21:54									#81
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My queue is good, except it is labeled turn 38 for this turn.

* gjramsey didn't notice the turn number duplication when the queue was sent in....

	16-05-2005 22:36									#82
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Just something else to confuse me.

	16-05-2005 23:11									#83
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Hmm... quite a bonus for vovan getting the extra left.

	17-05-2005 03:14									#84
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It was a tough call on my part. Traditionally the person is placed back on the track not pointed so his next move is off the track. SO I had to place him facing NE. But realizing the benefit, I removed a WC. If it had looked preplanned from a few turns ago, I would have given him a lost turn. But it was the result of a mistake make just the previous turn forcing him to leave the track on one of his next two turns in a turn that he could have easily made. It became unavoidable. Based on previous experience leaving the track he submitted those orders. The only way I could levee a bigger penalty was if I thought it was intentional running off to take advantage. I could not make that call based on what happened, He screwed up and was trying to minimize the outcome. If he could have burned his last two WC to make the turn........I would have forced him to do so.


I will have to consider how to handle this type of occurance in the future. I always thought it would be clear cut when a person went off if it was preplanned or just stupidity. Here it was stupidity, but he figured out a way to minimize the damage. Taking only on WC away seems like just a slap on the wrist, but technically I shouldn't even have done that. But I do reserve judgement.

	17-05-2005 05:13									#85
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Yes, I agree, he should have been able to stay on this turn and went off next turn, or took his luck with the oil, either way his spped would have taken him further off the track, resulting in a larger penalty than he got this turn.

I was going to suggest that his first move for the next turn should be an L to get the NE heading. He is free and clear at this point and it will be hard to catch him.

	17-05-2005 07:16									#86
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He would go off the track the next turn if I had kept him facing east. which is why the rule is the way it is. He decided to go off the track one square vs more in other options. You can't tell a person he has to take a worse option.

His situation is still worse than if he had been paying attention and made the turn like he should have. I have warned every other person when they made orders that I though were in error and would carry they off the track on that or the next turn. In the third lap, I decided not to. So you might say I did what I could to keep it as close as possible.

That's what you faced anyway. Now his top speed is lower so if there's any chance, it's a chance. He still will be slowed down by sand trap alley with no way to build extra speed prior.

Rub of the green as they say.

But actually I wanted a turbo or a perfomance car to win to show that SWAY wasn't supreme, so get your ass moving.

	17-05-2005 08:56									#87
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quote: Originally posted by rah But actually I wanted a turbo or a perfomance car to win to show that SWAY wasn't supreme, so get your ass moving.

Don't hold your breath on that one

* Sparrowhawk

	17-05-2005 17:59									#88
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TURN 37

code:


                          *******
                         *********   
                         ****   ***
                          ***    ***
                         ***     ***
                        ***      ***  
                       ***       *** 
                      *O*        **O  
                     ***         *O* 
                    O**          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          *** 
                    ***          **O*   
                    **O           ****
                    ***            **** 
                    ***             ****
                    ***              ==== end alley  
                    ***               *xx* 16 
                    ***                *Sx* 15 
                  *******               *SxS 14 
                  *******                *SSx 13 
                  *******                 *xSx 12 
                  *******                  SSxS 11 
                  *******                   xSSx 10
                  *******                    SSxS 9 
                  ********                    SxSx 8 
                  *********                    xSSS 7  
                  **********                    SxSS 6 
                  ******* ***                    SSxS 5
                  ***5***  **                     xSSx 4 
                  *******  ##-speed limit          SSxS 3   
                  *******  **     6                 SSSx 2
                  *******  **                        xSSx 1 
                  *******  **                         ====  start
                  *******  *2                     ***O****   sandtrap
                  *******  PP-pit stop           ********     alley
                  *******  **  marker           ********   
      finish line ==3====  **                  ***  
                  *******  **                 ***
                  *******  **                *** 
                  *******  4*               *** 
                  *******  ##-end limit    **O 
                  ******* ***             ***    
                  **********        *********
                  *********        ********* 
                  ********        ********* 
                  *******        *** 
                  ******        *** 
                  *****        ***
                  ****        *O7
                  ****       *** 
                  ****      ***
                   ***     *** 
                    ***     ***
                     ***     ***
                      ***     **O
                       O**     ***
                        ***     ***
                 A=6,1   *A*    ***
                          **** ****
                           *******
                            *****


MAX=Max speed
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC    MAX  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **     **  ****  **********
 1.   Spaced Cowboy        SE       7     3     20  turb  MML(4M)BB 
 2.   Kassiopeia            S       6     1     14  turb  BBR(5M)
 3.   Sparrowhawk           S       9     4      9  perf  M9
 4.   gjramsey              S       5     2     21  turb  A(M5)
 5.   Tuberski              S      11     3     12  sway  AMMMMMMMMMMM
 6.   Jonny                SE       8     4     13  sway  (m1)L(m5)A
 7.   Vovan                NE      12     1     12  sway  L(4M)L(2M)(2R)(2M)

	17-05-2005 18:22									#89
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RL(4M)

	17-05-2005 18:32									#90
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Here I come puttering out of the pits! queue is golden.

as if I didn't have enough issues with WCs, now there is more of that darned oil all over the place.