04-05-2005 18:17									#1
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Anyone interested?

	04-05-2005 19:41									#2
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I'm in. In a majors scenario I'd prefer to play as Netherlands, or if we do AGCEEP (yay!) I'd like to play as a dutch minor, and form the Netherlands. I've never played multiplayer EU2, so when we get this rolling we should discuss multiplayer conventions and practices to get on the same page.

	05-05-2005 09:05									#3
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I've never played MP either.

	05-05-2005 09:31									#4
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V1.08 with the latest beta sounds good to me. No AGCEEP or other mods just the straight game the way Paradox intended it. Does tomorrow sound good to people? We just have to decide on the time then meet in the VNET EU2 channal.

	05-05-2005 09:50									#5
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All day tomorrow's good for me - gotta love vacation

	05-05-2005 12:35									#6
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Well I'm getting used to the vanilla scenario again, and I'm ok with playing it.

Since none of us seem to have much mp experience, here are my suggestions:

Grand Campaign, I'd prefer European minors, we each build up to middle then major status over time as we see fit.

No pvp wars before 1500, when everyone should have something to fight with.

Other than that, we play the game as paradox intended but ban "gamey" tactics like pirates blocking naval ops etc, as we figure out what they are.

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I pick Friesland.

	05-05-2005 16:15									#7
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Those rules sound pretty good except for the minors part. I's hard to just be minors when large powers like England & Castile start out as majors but we'll need them as human players. I'd personally would like Austria or Sweden. I guess I'd go for Sweden as your Friesland will likely take the Dutch CoT before Austria gets it from Burgundy.

So we have normal/normal, 1419, we each take European powers, no PvP wars until after 1500, no gamey tactics/exploits like pirates or loan sharking. Everyone uses 1.08b 21 april. We know we'll be meeting on Vnet at the EU2 channal now we just need the time. I'm free all day.

	05-05-2005 16:23									#8
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Sounds good. Anyone want to try England or Castile then?

The evening is best for me, but waiting to hear from Chegitz...

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	05-05-2005 16:48									#9
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Post a time in GMT please so we can coordinate.

	05-05-2005 19:20									#10
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Minors doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Since most of us are first time MPers, we should have slightly more powerful countries.

I'm fine with the non-AGCEEP.

All day Friday though, huh? Let me get back to you on that. . . . oh, you meant today? Thassa no 'good. I have to bike over and drop off my rent, plus my wife has today off, so I have to spend time with her.

What about Saturday?

	05-05-2005 20:26									#11
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Saturday is a good day. How about 6am PST which is 9am EST and 2pm GMT. That might be to late for our Euro friends and if so then I don't mind wakingup earlier so that we don't end up having the Euros up all night.

	05-05-2005 20:27									#12
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BTW What do you folks think about inviting a few people from Paradox over? I'd like to get at least six players and so far only the three of us have said they're interested.

	05-05-2005 20:46									#13
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I might be up for this on Saturday.

It's been a long time since I've played EU2 and I've never played multiplayer, so it ought to be fun.

	05-05-2005 21:10									#14
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I'd play, but I think the Windows version uses proprietary Microsoft stuff for multiplayer, so I don't think it would work.

	05-05-2005 21:28									#15
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I havnt played EU 2 in a long time, and have never played multiplayer. I might join, as an observator? (playing a country in china or something).
tomorrow you mean friday?
sounds good i guess.

EDIT :
Unfortunatly I checked, and I couldnt find my old CD.
Asking around to someone I might have lent, but will probably not have it soon...
Have fun

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	05-05-2005 21:58									#16
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You don't need the CD if the game's already installed Lul.

I have never played MP. It could be interesting(although I'd rather have the humans not go to war at all, and rather divide the planet among them... ), but I can't at the moment.

	05-05-2005 22:25									#17
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When are we playing? If its now the weekend, I'll join. I call Venice!

	06-05-2005 01:42									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Saturday is a good day. How about 6am PST which is 9am EST and 2pm GMT. That might be to late for our Euro friends and if so then I don't mind wakingup earlier so that we don't end up having the Euros up all night.

Ok that sounds good to me. If we play vanilla, I'll still go with Friesland - if we play no pvp before 1500 then I should have no trouble gaining the dutch provinces in time to be a middle power that can tag along with the rest of you.

Why don't the rest of you think about what country you want to play?

I'll play Friesland->Netherlands
Looks like Oerdin wants Sweden
123John321 wants Venice

We still need

England
Castille
France?

EDIT: Looking at the events, I guess I can't form the Netherlands as Friesland in Vanilla Eu2 (unlike the AGCEEP.) It will either take a petite edit sometime after I capture the dutch provinces or I need another province. I'd prefer to go the edit route, as it's pretty straightforward and the NL is fun to have, but will defer to you guys...

	06-05-2005 06:25									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai You don't need the CD if the game's already installed Lul. I have never played MP. It could be interesting(although I'd rather have the humans not go to war at all, and rather divide the planet among them... ), but I can't at the moment.

Its not installed, as I said, havnt played in ages.

	06-05-2005 09:24									#20
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Okay, I'm good to go for saturday morning.

I'll play as Muscowy.

	06-05-2005 11:39									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I'd play, but I think the Windows version uses proprietary Microsoft stuff for multiplayer, so I don't think it would work.

There is a Mac version but the Mac version only goes up to v1.08 and is not supported by the betas. If you play we could just use v1.08 and things would work fine.

	06-05-2005 11:43									#22
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OK, the official time is Saturday morning at 6am Pacific time. Since we are now in day light savings time GMT is +7 hours (normally it is +8) so 0600 in California is 1300 GMT. We will be playing the 1419 Grand Campaign, V1.08 with the 21 April beta, and we will be meeting on VNET in the EU2 channal. The game will be set on Normal/Normal.

As for countries:

Ixnay - Muscowy
aeturneus - Friesland
123John321 - Venice
Oerdin - Sweden
Che - undeclared

Still open are England, France, Castile, the Ottoman Empire, Byzantium, Austria, and boat loads of minors. It would be nice to have the majors taken up so I may end up switching to which ever major is left over. Newbies should choose great powers or they may find the game to hard.

	06-05-2005 12:00									#23
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Is there a way to observe the game without playing?

	06-05-2005 12:48									#24
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Sadly no but we could post an AAR complete with screen shots.

	06-05-2005 14:24									#25
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6am GMT+7 would be.....3am my local. Damn. I'll pass on this one then. I'm not that good a player anyway. ^^;; Still, if there's interest in another game sometime after this, I might sign up as Castile.

	06-05-2005 14:53									#26
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It's 6am California time and 1300 GMT.

When I said +7 I meant GMT is seven hours ahead of use in California. 6am in California is 11pm in Sydney.

	06-05-2005 15:23									#27
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I can't wait

	06-05-2005 17:47									#28
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If we have no pvp before 1500, we can't have both an England and a France. Bugundy is also out for the same reasons.

Hmmmm, Byzantium's no fun without events, France and England should be left to noobs, GWB doesn't interest me . . .

guess I'll take, the Ottomans! Wow, there's a surprise.

	06-05-2005 18:03									#29
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Oh, there may be a way to observe. Play as Zimbabwe and use the cheat codes to remove the fog of war and the terra incognita. I don't know if the cheats work under MP though.

Eli, a few of us have never played MP. Join in and play anyways.

Aggie, I think the problem is the beta patches. If we use vanilla 1.08, we'd probably be able to play, but we're using the latest beta, 4-21.

	06-05-2005 18:33									#30
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7 or 8 am (Central)? Sounds good to me. Are we playing in one sitting?