06-05-2005 01:07									#181
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia hell no. im applauding Ajai Raj, the student, for excerising his freedom of speech, and chiding the people here who think that his question is grounds for arrestation. those are the unamerican traitors.

Oh, then I misunderstood you. I thought that you defended AC's fundamental right to free speech in a public and free forum where she could express her sick and monsterous opinions.

	06-05-2005 01:08									#182
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first of all that was a question he made and not a statement. second he was not arested till he was out of the auditorium and that is after he made the jestures. he was only arrested after being escorted out of the room when he started to act like an idiot.

	06-05-2005 01:09									#183
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat I thought that you defended AC's fundamental right to free speech in a public and free forum where she could express her sick and monsterous opinions.

So far, that hasn't been something which is in need of defense.

	06-05-2005 01:11									#184
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and once again i dont agree with what this chick what ever her name says. and i will state again as this guy could have been more eloquant bout his point. That would have been a lot better way to handle this then act like a prepubescent punk.

	06-05-2005 01:15									#185
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ok ill make a point on a more personal point. Take ben Kenobi for example. he states his right to free speech and opinion but after he does most of you guys lynch him, he doesnt come back at you grabbing his penis yelling obscenties but rather takes a more mature approach to ur heckling..

	06-05-2005 01:19									#186
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd So far, that hasn't been something which is in need of defense.

Nope, but I guess that when hecklers and people like Raj contiunes, AC and her ilk will blow it far out of proportion.

You don't silence this kind of people by screaming or making gestures at them, quite opposite, they thrive by it. The only thing that works are to display how laughable they are.

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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski ok ill make a point on a more personal point. Take ben Kenobi for example. he states his right to free speech and opinion but after he does most of you guys lynch him,

Lynch him? No, we disagree with him and present cogent arguments as to why. Please stop with the hyperbole, it doesn't help you.

quote: he doesnt come back at you grabbing his penis yelling obscenties but rather takes a more mature approach to ur heckling..

And if he did, so what? We wouldn't argue he should be arrested for doing so. Nobody is saying that Ajaj wasn't immature, but the point was that he was within his rights to speak his mind.

	06-05-2005 01:29									#188
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speak his mind yes cause a scene no. i simply dont see how grabbing urself in an obscene matter is speaking ur mind. And i see that i was right he asked a question and not made a stastement.

	06-05-2005 01:33									#189
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quote: speak his mind yes cause a scene no. i simply dont see how grabbing urself in an obscene matter is speaking ur mind.

That's how the pigs got Jim Morrison.

	06-05-2005 01:35									#190
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And as i stated before i had a friend of mine in the audience that clarified this student was ther to cause trouble and make a point. By geting arrested he certainly did that by geting folks all upset bout freedom of speech. His purpose was served, and now you have a bunch of people outraged at his arrest for speaking his mind, rather then his obscene behavior and lack of respect for the public.

	06-05-2005 01:36									#191
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski he doesnt come back at you grabbing his penis yelling obscenties but rather takes a more mature approach to ur heckling..

If he did, he would fit in around here better and wouldn't be "heckled" so much.

	06-05-2005 01:36									#192
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This kids question isnt what makes me mad its his behavior after words that bothers me

	06-05-2005 01:37									#193
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The pigs would never do this to a conservative student.

	06-05-2005 01:38									#194
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ben kenobi doesnt came back grabbing his penis because materbation is a sin.

	06-05-2005 01:45									#195
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see my point in entirety. I hardly see calling him all kinds of names making a valid argument. Im not saying that you all call him names but some do. anyway off BK. I have already said im not polotical i dont know conservative from libereal or radical. This kid acted like a jerk made his point and paid the price for it.

	06-05-2005 01:53									#196
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again, acting like a jerk isnt reason to get thrown out of a public forum. he asked a question, the cops threw him out.

	06-05-2005 01:55									#197
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no but being disruptive which he was is..

	06-05-2005 01:57									#198
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski ... This kid acted like a jerk made his point and paid the price for it.

Sadly, in the process of making his point, he made AC the winner - not because of what he did, but because that unavoidedly resulted in his removement/arrest.

	06-05-2005 01:59									#199
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I wish someone had shot Coulter dead.

	06-05-2005 02:00									#200
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The kid's apparantly being charged with a class C misdimeanor. Why do conservatives hate freedom?

	06-05-2005 02:04									#201
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quote: no but being disruptive which he was is..

its a public speech, in a public venue. you cannot be disruptive in public by asking a question that someone doesnt like.

	06-05-2005 02:07									#202
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They don't believe in anything other than power. Coulter is the classic example: she just talks meaningless ****, yet they lap it up. Most of it doesn't even make sense, but it doesn't matter – she writes a sort of right wing political pornography. Just as regular porno is designed to arouse and discharge sexual energy and not to inform you about anything, so Coulter's books are designed to arouse and discharge outrage at the enemy and not to inform anyone of anything.

Someone should smack her about – preferably one of the redneck pigs she's always praising.

	06-05-2005 02:23									#203
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Coulter was the source of all the heckling. Clearly, she was a disruptive pressence and should be jailed.

	06-05-2005 02:31									#204
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The amusing part is Stupid Anne thought she could speak at a uni and not get heckled by normal people.

	06-05-2005 02:35									#205
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse The amusing part is Stupid Anne thought she could speak at a uni and not get heckled by normal people.

uni and normal people ???? You can't be serious.

	06-05-2005 02:45									#206
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Unless we were actually there, shouldn't we accept the police report on events up to the point them moved to arrest the anarchist?

Regardless, it is more than clear that he was there with a group of very wild and obscene protesters who deliberately were trying to obstruct Coulter's speech in any way they could besides physically attacking her. When the speaker became so outrageous as to cause Coulter supporters in the front to conduct their counter-riot and move to physically restrained the obscene protester, the police moved in and made the arrest.

This will be an interesting "free speech" case.

So will the pie throwing case: Another anarchist free speech case we previously discussed here. When we left that case, we were told that the reason that the prosecution dropped the case is because Coulter did not prosecute or show up or whatever. Well that turns out to be a boldfaced lie.

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local....cgi?article=51

	06-05-2005 02:56									#207
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Unless we were actually there, shouldn't we accept the police report on events up to the point them moved to arrest the anarchist?

Nope.

quote: Regardless, it is more than clear that he was there with a group of very wild and obscene protesters who deliberately were trying to obstruct Coulter's speech in any way they could besides physically attacking her. When the speaker became so outrageous as to cause Coulter supporters in the front to conduct their counter-riot and move to physically restrained the obscene protester, the police moved in and made the arrest.

Quite funny. You are busy with this one boy and his doings, but totally ignoring that AC is a wild and obscene speaker that has as a goal to prevent others to speak their opinion. One that is so outrageous that she get people to counter-riot to her insanities.

	06-05-2005 03:15									#208
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Quite funny. You are busy with this one boy and his doings, but totally ignoring that AC is a wild and obscene speaker that has as a goal to prevent others to speak their opinion. One that is so outrageous that she get people to counter-riot to her insanities.

Blackcat, the problem is, of course, that there was a group of screaming protestors who were at the back of the auditorium. Even KOS report says that they were there as a group.

The rest of the audience did not errupt in outraged hostility to what she had to say. The people in the back did.

Now, BlackCat, please inform us how being pro-family is "obscene?"

	06-05-2005 03:17									#209
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Ned, please inform us how this is not obsene:

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

	06-05-2005 03:25									#210
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Now, BlackCat, please inform us how being pro-family is "obscene?"

Nice pick of an AC quoute. What about :

"[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks."---Rivera Live 8/2/99

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"---Hannity & Colmes, 6/20/01

"Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let's just call it for what it is. They're whores."---Salon.com 11/16/00

"Clinton is in love with the erect penis."---This Evening with Judith Regan, Fox News Channel 2/6/00

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."---MSNBC 2/8/97