07-05-2005 22:35									#1
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... over some of the stuff they left on the Moon - landers, rovers, flags, seismographs and other measuring devices - would you be interested in bidding, provided you had the funds necessary for it?

And how about other, shall we say not-easily retrievable, space equipment. Located on other planets we've probed, so you'd know it'd still be there for your descendants to claim.

This stuff could be worth a fortune one day, and would probably be worth investing some amount in, eventhough you'll never actually get your own hands on it.

I'd like to maybe get the hammer that Jack Schmitt hurled "for miles and miles" as one of his last actions on the lunar surface during Apollo XVII. I think my mind would be more at peace knowing I had a hammer up there on the Moon.

	07-05-2005 22:39									#2
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Then you would need meteor insurance to cover your property...

Does NASA actually still own that stuff or is it considered abandoned salvage?

	07-05-2005 22:43									#3
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That's a good question. And an interesting one as well, since if NASA isn't laying claim to it, it's probably just a matter of time before some private citizen does and starts auctioning it off.

	07-05-2005 22:44									#4
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Absolutely.


And then I would buy a star, and arrange for my remains to be shot into orbit apon my death.

	07-05-2005 22:47									#5
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It would all be priceless. I put down a trillion dollars on all of it if it went up to auction and got proper prices.

	07-05-2005 22:49									#6
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I read some time ago that a guy had bought all the original data-sets from the Soviet missions to Venus in the 60's. He had started converting and storing the data on his computer and had been able to restore the pictures in a quality and detail that was many times better than what had been known at the time of the missions, and in the years inbetween. He really made some important new discoveries and advanced the knowledge of Venus, something few would have thought of with all the focus being on new and pioneering missions, not so much on what already took place.

	07-05-2005 22:52									#7
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Winston, after a certain amount of time (days?) wrecked ships become salvage. I kind of doubt that this includes ships from national navies, but maybe. Could the US have raised the Kursk and not given it back? The CIA did try once to raise a Sov sub, read a book on the attempt some years back. Kept it a secret too, don't recall if they had to give the useless chunks they got back to the Sovs...

	07-05-2005 22:53									#8
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It will be about as much yours as all that moon real-estate being sold, i.e. not at all.

	07-05-2005 22:57									#9
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Maybe it's become salvage as you say, but I would assume that since these things are of such historic importance to NASA, they would not have accepted that it wasn't their property still.

NASA would say "Hang on, we're in the proces of retrieving it, it's not abandoned."

	07-05-2005 22:59									#10
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We really need to get a space lawyer in here who scecializes in salvage.

Anyone?

	07-05-2005 22:59									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Az It will be about as much yours as all that moon real-estate being sold, i.e. not at all.

I don't necessarily think so. You can't buy/sell bits of the Moon, since nobody owns it in the first place. But artifacts from the lunar missions were (are?) owned and paid for by NASA, so it would be a legitimate purchase if they put it up for sale.

	07-05-2005 23:01									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Winston I don't necessarily think so. You can't buy/sell bits of the Moon, since nobody owns it in the first place

Nobody owned the earth in the first place, either.

	07-05-2005 23:05									#13
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Yes, but then the meek inherited it.

	07-05-2005 23:07									#14
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Yeah, that first moment of ownership, that first claim... who can really claim the moon?

	07-05-2005 23:07									#15
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What Earth are you living on?

	07-05-2005 23:13									#16
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Maybe it was the Greek then. Or the cheese-makers.

Anyway, about the Moon. If NASA were smart, they'd put out a line of DVD's with rare video and stills from the Apollo missions. They could sell millions of them if they marketed it right. Lots of revenue for the ailing budgets.

	07-05-2005 23:23									#17
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Something along the lines of the titles from Spacecraft Films and 20th Century Fox that are advertised at The Project Apollo Archive.

Incidentally, if you're interested, that site has a rather extensive collection of audio and short video clips from the different missions, as well as lots of other information and images on Apollo. Click "Apollo Multimedia" and you can download the different clips to your computer. Highly recommended.

	07-05-2005 23:27									#18
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They take out all the UFOs that are caught on tape.

Winston, did you see that clip with the UFO and the energy bolt fired from earth that just missed it? The UFO swerved!

	07-05-2005 23:34									#19
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No but then I'm not really into UFO's.

I'm not sure I'm much of a drinker by any standard.

	07-05-2005 23:36									#20
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Since you insist I'll try and find the clip for you.

	07-05-2005 23:40									#21
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Try and find the one with the pig also. It swerved!

	07-05-2005 23:44									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Yes, but then the meek inherited it.

But then you bastards stole it.

	07-05-2005 23:47									#23
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Yes, and you über-bastards failed miserably at copying that trick.

	07-05-2005 23:59									#24
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http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/sts-48.htm

STS-48 Space shuttle video...link center bottom of page.



Don't watch it, whatever you do...

	08-05-2005 00:09									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/sts-48.htm STS-48 Space shuttle video...link center bottom of page. Don't watch it, whatever you do...

UFO

If I ever saw a failed SDI test...

	08-05-2005 00:14									#26
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To me it looks like a clear case of Unfounded Freaking Out.

	08-05-2005 00:15									#27
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Ya, and now those little buggers are running around turning people into who knows what?

What was the name of that game again? My best teams always got blown away as soon as the alien big brain guys started coming. My guys would turn and kill my other guys, anfd that would be that.

	08-05-2005 00:19									#28
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The only UFO's I ever had any respect for were the little fast ones in Asteroids. Beeping frantically, they'd manage to blow me up all too often.

Now, the bigger slower ones, piece of cake.

	08-05-2005 00:21									#29
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Asteroids was one of my favorite games. Those little fast ones were murder!

	08-05-2005 02:32									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Ya, and now those little buggers are running around turning people into who knows what? What was the name of that game again? My best teams always got blown away as soon as the alien big brain guys started coming. My guys would turn and kill my other guys, anfd that would be that.

X-COM, or UFO: Enemy Unknown.