13-05-2005 14:23									#1
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This has already been uploaded before, but the interface was cut out and the image quality was bad.


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	13-05-2005 15:24									#2
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The graphic thing I'm waiting to give a look at is mountains. I wonder if we will get "interaction" between different tiles, with mountains forming chains of mountains and so on.

Of course, such interaction would be nice with rivers, lakes and so on, but mountains would be nice first of all

	13-05-2005 15:43									#3
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Thx, looking great (never seen this picture)

Though why is it that there's a city in the middle of all the blackness? This is not SMAC where your unit suddenly could be on the other side of the planet

	13-05-2005 15:46									#4
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Perhaps some other nation has given away one of their cities.

	13-05-2005 15:48									#5
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Maybe, but that's a weird thing to do so early in the game, they haven't even researched Bronze Working

	13-05-2005 16:07									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio Maybe, but that's a weird thing to do so early in the game, they haven't even researched Bronze Working

They have crossbows.

	13-05-2005 16:10									#7
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Maybe they bought the crossbows from another civ...
At the top of the screen it says "Research: Bronze Working (3)" which I assume means they invent it in 3 turns...

	13-05-2005 17:40									#8
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Or it could just be a promotional shot designed to look prettyful.

	13-05-2005 17:54									#9
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Ok, what means:
- Aretas III (leader name? Unit name? special unit name?)
- (Great Merchant) (a great leader? a special unit?)
- 2 [feet] (does this mean there's a great leader who can walk 2 stept. does this mean great leaders get special functions? abilities?)
- invisible to other units (only for this great leader / special unit? other invisible units? submarines?)

- Desert 3 food? 1 commerce?
- gresh water gives an additional 'red cross' = extra healing power? healing power to what? citizen? damaged units?

- the feet next to the 'crossbowman' description is a little different then the feet next to the 'great merchant'

	13-05-2005 17:59									#10
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center-under:
skull = disband?
flag on top of mountain = ? claim territory?
arrow over dot = wait / wait this turn
swords / shield = pillage? fortress?
?????? = ??????? hmmm, on 2nd view it looks like such a thing to look further (forgot the english word) perhaps a way to view terrain further away.

Maybe these 5 options are for the (not in the screen visible) "Great Merchant" Aretas III.
Does such a special unit have the possibility to claim land? To look further away?

Why is the crossbowman selected in the left bottom corner? Are the crossbowman and the "Aretas III" unit the same? Is the Aretas III unit a promoted crossbowman, which has special abilities, like claiming land (???) and use a telescope / spyglass (that was the word I was looking for)

In fact those abilities would be cool for special promoted units.
If this is the case that would mean that you can name your units, for sure if they're promoted units.

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On 3rd look, the merchant most obviously is the merchant you can sie on the south-west of the city.
Which leaves the question open where the crossbowman is located in the screen. And which one is selected, the crossbowman or hte great merchant.

Does the great merchant point at a new trade system?
In which merchants wander through the fields from city to city?

	13-05-2005 18:08									#12
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Maybe the Great Mechant text is info-text that shows up when hovering the mouse over the unit?
And the selected crossbowman is in the land not viewable on screen

That would be my guess

	13-05-2005 18:11									#13
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Something is annoying about such types of screenshots (with interface). I keep trying to click on the minimap to view other parts of the map
When do they make "screenshots" that allows this

	13-05-2005 18:15									#14
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those screenshots are named: "Demos"

	13-05-2005 18:43									#15
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looks to me that the crossbow is the M-unit in the upper right of the shot.

The center
Skull: Disban
Flag on Mountian: Fortify
Dot w/arrow going clockwise: Explore
Head with crossed swords: Sentry
Spyglass: Not sure.

	13-05-2005 18:44									#16
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Maybe part of the known map is blank because not all units "map" the terrain, or it is dependent on a technology like "Map Making"?

	13-05-2005 19:21									#17
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Re: the merchant: Could it be that it is spawned from a caravan, much like Great Leaders in Civ3 is spawned from combat units?

	13-05-2005 19:35									#18
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Has the symbol for production (shields) changed? Look at the round button next to the mini map. It seems to have a food symbol, a gold symbol and a little hammer. I would think this might be a button to turn on map symbols to show how many food/gold/shields are produced in each tile (like Civ3 hotkeys do). But that does not look like a shield.

	13-05-2005 20:34									#19
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thanks for the screen shot

so many questions...

	13-05-2005 20:41									#20
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so many answers, but which answer belongs to which question

	13-05-2005 21:24									#21
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I bet the spyglass is explore.

Crossbowman, on top right.

	13-05-2005 21:40									#22
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The arrow going over the dot could be guarding a city/unit/terrain improvement

	13-05-2005 21:42									#23
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Look at the 3 mines, all 3 are different from each other.

But what could they be at such an early stage of the game?

The one at the bottom appears to be gold

	13-05-2005 22:44									#24
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Too. Much. Yellow.

	13-05-2005 22:53									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio Thx, looking great (never seen this picture) Though why is it that there's a city in the middle of all the blackness? This is not SMAC where your unit suddenly could be on the other side of the planet

And you locate yourself on the world without knowing anything 'bout it.

	13-05-2005 23:58									#26
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user interface is nice
very reminiscent of "old" games (1990s).

but it does need some face life. especially the horrible font...

	14-05-2005 00:12									#27
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btw, just wanted to clarify something... the unit you see there is not a Civ2 caravan-type unit. It is a Great Person (specifically a Merchant). It does have some Trade Mission functionality, but you can't just build these units, so micro-management is not really a problem.

	14-05-2005 00:13									#28
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Sounds great, thanks, now I don't have that to worry about

	14-05-2005 00:16									#29
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I hope there will be some other trade route system though. Currently there's no way trader countries such as Portugal, the Netherlands or Venice can be represented in Civ.

	14-05-2005 01:41									#30
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Thanks for the screenshot. Civ4 is looking really interesting.