23-05-2005 15:26									#241
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro I remember the book, my parents had it. I was a "Suppenkasper". Didn't like those soups in my childhood.

My goodness, it's the stuff of nightmares. I can imagine it being used in Prussian military academies to instil obedience. I must reread my copy of 'Young Torless' and see if it's mentioned...

	23-05-2005 15:45									#242
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Well, I think it is still quite popular today here, even if most parents wouldn't agree with the methods proposed there. However, my nephew told me that as a little child, he really took that "scissorman" thing serious, and it disturbed him quite a lot.

OTOH there are some stories you can still tell today, the one about the Moor for example. Even CBH would like it....

	23-05-2005 15:47									#243
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Aaaaahhhhh!!!!!!

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	23-05-2005 15:50									#244
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But then, these are all infidel children, so they should be glad if some fingers is all they lose

	23-05-2005 16:19									#245
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Once again we are seeing the Muslim world prefers lies which fit their bigotry to the truth. After 9/11 Muslim leaders claimed Jews were behind the attacks and that all the Jewish workers called in sick that day. After the sunami Muslims were convinced that Americans, Israelis, and Indians had some how purposely caused the sumani. Now we have a news story exposed to be false yet Muslims latch on to the story and spread it like it was one of their religious fairytails.

If an ignorant person is one who was never educated on the facts what do you call a person who knows the facts but refuses to believe them and instead creates alternative fantasy stories?

	23-05-2005 16:20									#246
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin it was one of their religious fairytails. If an ignorant person is one who was never educated on the facts what do you call a person who knows the facts but refuses to believe them and instead creates alternative fantasy stories?

An American Creationist or Obi Gyn.

	23-05-2005 17:14									#247
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More fun stuff from Newsweek...



I guess putting an American flag in a trash can is alright, even if putting a Koran in a toilet isn't.

Here's a translated version.



http://eddriscoll.com/archives/007122.php

	24-05-2005 00:20									#248
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The flag in the trash and the title that says Freedom is in the trash because of Bush?!!!!!! Newsweek is as about as far wrong as one can get. The thinking (yeah, right) that must have gone into that headline must have been from the point of view of al Qai'ida and its allies. Yes, that's right. Its allies.

	24-05-2005 01:32									#249
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Are you mishandling 'Struwwelpeter', you flea on a camel's anus ? CALL FOR THE REDLEGGED SCISSORMEN, SNICKER SNACK !

You bumd people have no understanding of other culture and I donot think you are religious at all.

	24-05-2005 01:41									#250
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Once again we are seeing the Muslim world prefers lies which fit their bigotry to the truth. After 9/11 Muslim leaders claimed Jews were behind the attacks and that all the Jewish workers called in sick that day. After the sunami Muslims were convinced that Americans, Israelis, and Indians had some how purposely caused the sumani. Now we have a news story exposed to be false yet Muslims latch on to the story and spread it like it was one of their religious fairytails. If an ignorant person is one who was never educated on the facts what do you call a person who knows the facts but refuses to believe them and instead creates alternative fantasy stories?

You crfiminal are inmsulting muslim who are nice people in my
opion as they never tease me or insult me in any way.

	24-05-2005 01:44									#251
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quote: Originally posted by CharlesBHoff You crfiminal are inmsulting muslim who are nice people in my opion as they never tease me or insult me in any way. Plus it take than delivery act to tear up the koran and fluch it down than toil which prove to any muslim court it was than criminal act. While dropping it on than floor can be consider than accident and can be ingore.

	24-05-2005 02:50									#252
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I don't suppose that Newsweek will ever reveal the identity of the miscreant will they? I don't believe that they owe him confidentiality since he lied to them. They ought to expose him.

	25-05-2005 00:30									#253
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There should be a way to hold "un-named" sources accountable. I've often believed the "un-named source" was actually the reporter themselves.

	25-05-2005 00:32									#254
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has anyone posted this picture yet?

This was an actual sign put up by a christian church.



http://www.thedigitalcourier.com/ar...news/news01.txt

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	25-05-2005 14:48									#258
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quote: Originally posted by CharlesBHoff You bumd people have no understanding of other culture and I donot think you are religious at all.

My bumd people sho'nuff ain't religious at all, no sirree bob.

No understanding of Culture ? Them's fightin' words.


Where is my popgun, you Struwwelpeter mishandler ?

	25-05-2005 14:57									#259
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This could get interesting. Who is able to make the hardest-to-understand post, molly or Charles?

	25-05-2005 15:09									#260
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quote: Originally posted by Winston This could get interesting. Who is able to make the hardest-to-understand post, molly or Charles?

Your Joycean stream of consciousness primer starts soon.


The thing is though, there's a sense of humour behind the punning gibberish I'm writing- not like CharlesBHoff's or Ned's peyote powered paroles or mescalin motored maunderings.

	25-05-2005 15:17									#261
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Yes, I completely agree with that post.

At least with the bit I was able to figure out.

	25-05-2005 15:30									#262
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You should open a snack shop dedicated to purveying cream cheese and salmon doughy snacks.


You could call it 'Winnie's Beigels'.


molly punster

	25-05-2005 15:39									#263
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I think I would very much like for Charles to reply to that on my behalf.

Ok, I'm out of here now. I'm taking an awful personal risk by engaging even in a little good-natured sparring with molly.

	25-05-2005 15:42									#264
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quote: Originally posted by Winston I think I would very much like for Charles to reply to that on my behalf.

You want him to reply about Jewish food ?


Oh no.....

	25-05-2005 16:14									#265
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Yes.

	26-05-2005 06:46									#266
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Today's BBC:

quote: FBI records detail Koran claims More than 500 detainees are held at Guantanamo An inmate at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp accused US guards of flushing a Koran down the toilet back in 2002, declassified FBI documents reveal. The disclosure follows a row over a similar claim made in Newsweek, which the magazine was forced to retract. The Newsweek claims sparked protests across the Muslim world, and riots in Afghanistan that killed 15 people. The Pentagon said last week it had seen "no credible and specific allegations" about putting a Koran in a toilet. Newsweek last week apologised for, and then retracted its report, after saying it could not corroborate the story. The White House rounded on the magazine, saying its report had done "lasting damage" to the US image in the Muslim world. But the FBI documents made public on Wednesday, after a request from the human rights group American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), show that such allegations had been made at Guantanamo Bay. After interviewing a detainee, an unnamed FBI agent wrote on 1 August 2002: "Personally, he has nothing against the United States. The guards in the detention facility do not treat him well. Their behaviour is bad. "About five months ago, the guards beat the detainees. They flushed a Koran in the toilet. "The guards dance around when the detainees are trying to pray. The guards still do these things." The ACLU said the documents showed the Pentagon was aware of such allegations being made at Guantanamo Bay long ago, but had repeatedly turned a blind eye to "mounting evidence of widespread abuse". The Pentagon did not immediately comment on the documents, but officials have said recently that various claims made by former detainees have been proved false. Protests against alleged US abuse of the Koran continue Officials say they have begun comparing detainee complaints to see if any are corroborated. ACLU lawyer Jameel Jaffer said: "Unfortunately, one thing we've learned over the last couple of years is that detainee statements about their treatment at Guantanamo and other detention centres sometimes have turned out to be more credible than US government statements." Other FBI documents released on Wednesday detailed further accusations, including one by a detainee who said a female interrogator wiped his face with her menstrual blood. Meanwhile Amnesty International urged the US to shut Guantanamo Bay, calling it "the gulag of our time". In a report the group said the US had undermined human rights across the world, by trying to "redefine and sanitise torture". The White House dismissed the report as "ridiculous and unsupported". Spokesman Scott McClellan said allegations of mistreatment were being investigated. More than 500 people are being held at Guantanamo Bay, the US naval base on Cuba, suspected of links to the al-Qaeda network. Some have been detained for more than three years, but have not been charged.

	26-05-2005 08:30									#267
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quote: Originally posted by Winston This could get interesting. Who is able to make the hardest-to-understand post, molly or Charles?

I've had years of Charles experience. I'd be glad to translate.

	26-05-2005 08:35									#268
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He's your DL. Be honest!

	26-05-2005 11:16									#269
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident has anyone posted this picture yet? This was an actual sign put up by a christian church. http://www.thedigitalcourier.com/ar...news/news01.txt

I just saw the news story, it is a real sign.

	27-05-2005 02:16									#270
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CNN just had an excellent piece broadcast. The pentigon has released reports and video of detainees ripping out pages from the Koran then trying to incite other detains by claiming guards did it. Then there is the video of detains throwing the Koran on the ground and claiming guards did it.

It just goes to show the type of people who are in Gitmo and how nothing they claim should ever be taken at face value. No one should forget the Al Qaeda handbook which as found in Iraq which told Al Qaeda people to lie and to always claim the infidels had commited crimes even when they didn't.