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Paddy the Scot
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Hordeland
Mar 2001
time: 14:20
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PLATO says:
hello
Paddy says:
hello
Paddy says:
1 sec, will invite in other chat with Ljube
PLATO says:
Sorry, was watching Spiderman 2 with Bobby and didn't realize I was signed in
Paddy says:
it is all good
Paddy says:
wanna chat, or movie? .
PLATO says:
chat. Movie is over now
Paddy says:
ok
PLATO says:
So what is up with Ljube? War planning?
Paddy says:
lots
Paddy says:
teying to get you in that chat
PLATO says:
Ljube has been added to the conversation.
Paddy says:
ok lets try this
Paddy says:
hello Horde
Ljube says:
hell
PLATO says:
Hi Ljube
Ljube says:
hello
Ljube says:
OK Plato, we have a novel idea
Ljube says:
Paddy and I
PLATO says:
Ljube says:
To mess with aqua's head
PLATO says:
hehe
PLATO says:
I already like it
Ljube says:
One of us is to be his good friend within the horde
Ljube says:
and leader of an underground movement to overthrow paddy
PLATO says:
haha...go on...
Ljube says:
Paddy suggests taht one be me.
PLATO says:
I think that is a good choice
Paddy says:
will play to aquas ego
Ljube says:
I say to aqua I don't trust teh bards at all.
Ljube says:
That they have way too much influence on some of our members
PLATO says:
This could be really cool...double agent Ljube!
Ljube says:
taht through these mebers who hold key positions they effectively control the horde
Ljube says:
that unrest is mounting within the horde with me as the leader of the movement
PLATO says:
and the ambassador is just an inexperienced "do-boy" hehe
Ljube says:
hehe
PLATO says:
not exactly sure where i will land
Ljube says:
and Paddy is a weak Khan who is just a puppet in the hands of Chris and bongo
Ljube says:
aqua haters
PLATO says:
hehe....If he contacts me I will take his head for a good ride. You can count on me playing my small part well
Ljube says:
hehe, we need a new thread for this
Paddy says:
nono - Khan puppet of the many many polls
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
not one section, but the vote
Ljube says:
ok
Paddy says:
and Aqua feels we have way to many polls
PLATO says:
haha...this will be good.
Paddy says:
I must tell him of 2 - 3 different polls everytime we talk
Ljube says:
hahaha
PLATO says:
we should poll wheather or not we have enough polls!
Paddy says:
at one stage there - over Desolator Dave, he was sure we had 5 polls on the matter
Ljube says:
hahaha
Ljube says:
The horde needs a strong Khan, one that will dominate!
Ljube says:
No more polls!
Paddy says:
I tell him we a very mobilzed horde
he tells me we very ineffectual
Paddy says:
hehehe
PLATO says:
"Aqua, I just don't know. I'm really trying to stay out of it. Is this normal for a DG?" hehe
Ljube says:
hahaha
Paddy says:
hehehe
Paddy says:
he will lick that up lick fresh cream in a saucer
Ljube says:
I hope he will get the impression we're just a disorganised rabble and underestimate us.
Ljube says:
Until it's too late, hehehe
Paddy says:
that he should
Ljube says:
If I can score Sidon in the process, well that would be grand.
PLATO says:
This is an excellent idea and could be expanded in other areas as well
Paddy says:
yes - the Babs
Ljube says:
haha
Ljube says:
hahaha
PLATO says:
aqua will talk to any allies about our disarray. we should let no one other than the Bards know of this
Ljube says:
perhaps not even bards
Paddy says:
hmmm, why tell bards?
PLATO says:
it could yield some excellent intelligence on who is talking to who
PLATO says:
we don't want the bards to doubt our committment if they get word of it
Ljube says:
it will be just what it seems, my attempt at taking over the horde
Ljube says:
and the bards don't like me much
Ljube says:
think I'm issuing orders to their units
Ljube says:
teaching them how to play
PLATO says:
someone needs to
Ljube says:
haha
Paddy says:
hehe
PLATO says:
just kidding Paddy!
PLATO says:
Paddy, I think the bards influence you to much. We should poll this matter.
Ljube says:
hahaha
Paddy says:
baddd man
PLATO says:
hehe
Ljube says:
My grand finale will be telling him that for my success in the coming elections for Great Khan I need to do something great
Ljube says:
And that great be getting Sidon from the DR.
Paddy says:
hehehe
Ljube says:
If they offer peace yielding Sidon, I will take over as Khan and promptly sneak-attack bards
Ljube says:
and destroy them all in a single turn.
Paddy says:
"NEWS FLASH"
Rhoth is almost finished the save
so about 5 - 15 mins in case you want a fresh cuppa
PLATO says:
haha...then what do we do if they take it?
Ljube says:
hahaha, we keep sidon
Ljube says:
hahaha
PLATO says:
That will be the last peace offer anyone will ever take from us!
Paddy says:
would like to keep antioch
Ljube says:
I'll tell him I lost the election
Ljube says:
hahaha
Paddy says:
hehehe
PLATO says:
we should perhaps mention publically that Ljube is turn player for awhile??
Ljube says:
LOL
Ljube says:
maybe leak that elections are going to be organised in te horde
Ljube says:
but leak
Paddy says:
ahh
Paddy says:
hmmmm
PLATO says:
well...we need you to accept peace deal, and then Paddy to take back over after you "lose" election. No one will ever know it was a plan
Ljube says:
hahaha
Ljube says:
that would be grand
Paddy says:
ok, just an idea
but if we play it too publicly, then we do not get to do that next team
where by if we play aqua close, then we can move more publicly with next team
thus the sting gets two life spans
Ljube says:
yes
PLATO says:
bards will TOTALLY freak when they get word of peace treaty
Ljube says:
hahaha
PLATO says:
good point Paddy
Ljube says:
so they should
Ljube says:
It probably won't get that far.
Ljube says:
I don't think Aqua is going to give Sidon
Ljube says:
for my promise
Ljube says:
but, my distraction may buy us time to move in units
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
and kylle him
Paddy says:
and that be thy goal
PLATO says:
still...a worthy gambit
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
and if played, we could keep it going after sidon...
Ljube says:
hehe, yes, I still the voice for cooperation with DR, just not strong enough
Ljube says:
polls, damn polls
Paddy says:
or gaining more support
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
yes the polls
Paddy says:
and each of us make them at our whim
PLATO says:
excellent...perhaps in frustration you could even reveal some troop movement plans to get their help in discrediting the Khan??
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
good idea
Ljube says:
reveal some details
PLATO says:
I am sure we can even arrange a copy of a chat that will really open aqua's ears to your message...a sign of your sincerity. hehe
Ljube says:
hehehe
Paddy says:
hehe
PLATO says:
With a minimum of effort, that could gain you much trust from aqua. You would need to reveal it at only the appropriate time however. To early will make it look like a setup. You must do it almost reluctantly...like you desperately need their help and this is a last resort.
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
I'll also tell aqua to try to talk to Paddy and influence him more
Paddy says:
yes indeed
PLATO says:
hmmm....careful on that. You must sell aqua that your contacts with him are secret from the Horde.
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
brbr - phone
Paddy says:
save inbound
Ljube says:
yes, got it
Paddy says:
could you again send to me
takes 15 = 20 mins otherwise
Ljube says:
ok
PLATO says:
Save open
Ljube says:
sent
PLATO says:
Babs are in Anarchy!
Ljube says:
damn lying bastards
Ljube says:
good they want to switch to silly monarchy
Ljube says:
they won't have money to supprot units
PLATO says:
If they have been building much.
Ljube says:
never mind
Paddy says:
back again
PLATO says:
They are weak to us.
Ljube says:
what is built can be destroyed
Ljube says:
PLATO says:
hehe
Ljube says:
They lied to us.
Paddy says:
indeed
Ljube says:
on many occasions
Paddy says:
as long as they give the tech in coming 2 turns
PLATO says:
Indeed they did. I have not trusted them from the get-go
Ljube says:
me neither
Paddy says:
they will
Paddy says:
we have that alliance all sorted
Ljube says:
Judging by the location of barb horse and barb warrior, the barb village is 9-9-9-9-6 from KBH
Ljube says:
Or near that location.
Paddy says:
ok
Ljube says:
Slicers and Dicers should move 9
Paddy says:
ok.... some order please
Ljube says:
ok
Paddy says:
can we please start with the cities
then trade, then movement
Ljube says:
ok
Paddy says:
cities.
Ljube says:
Bloodview, 4 shields
Ljube says:
From flood plains to gold hill
PLATO says:
gets horse in 6?
Ljube says:
we will pop-rush a horse next turn
Ljube says:
Red guard decision
Ljube says:
PLATO says:
If we are pop-rushing then why the extra sield this turn?
Paddy says:
so do we need the shield or food
Ljube says:
shield, bacause we have 6 shilelds now
Ljube says:
and need 10 to pop rush
Paddy says:
ok
PLATO says:
ahh...didn't know that.
Ljube says:
yeah, 20 shields one citizen
Ljube says:
horse = 30 shields
PLATO says:
ok
Ljube says:
so 10 shields + citizen
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
KBH, change production to horse
PLATO says:
hmmm...why not go ahead and get the settler and then build horse?
Ljube says:
because we need the horse now for sidon
Paddy says:
yes much needed
Ljube says:
we planned an attack in 1425 BC
PLATO says:
ok...yes I saw the attack plan (which is very good, btw).
Ljube says:
thanks
Ljube says:
bongo and I talked about it in great detail
PLATO says:
I wouldn't object if you posted those chats.
Paddy says:
yes, in the DR War thread please
Ljube says:
don't know if he saved the chat, I didn't. Next time I'll make sure I save it.
Ljube says:
sorry about that
Paddy says:
I have it
Ljube says:
ah, yes
Paddy says:
Ljube says:
PLATO says:
Paddy says:
I may have been asleep, but enjoyed it all the same
Ljube says:
hehe
PLATO says:
hehe
Paddy says:
I do my best work while sleeping
Ljube says:
PLATO says:
haha. me too!
Paddy says:
then you both knew that
PLATO says:
hehe
Paddy says:
ok, next city
Ljube says:
the rest nothing
Paddy says:
oh ok
PLATO says:
Let me ask this.
Ljube says:
yes?
PLATO says:
If we are to pop rush next turn, then why not Bokhara. It currently has 5 shields and is producing 5 shields. Then we could keep the settler in KBH.
Ljube says:
because Bokahara is good at producing (5 shields per turn)
Ljube says:
can build a horse every 6 turns
Ljube says:
Bloodview is terrible at producing.
Ljube says:
And KBH is perfect military factory.
Paddy says:
good points
PLATO says:
not stopping the bloodview one...just adding Bokhara. The food box there is almost full and should not take long to recover...and we would gain another city sooner
Ljube says:
You are right
Ljube says:
what say you paddy?
Ljube says:
add anotehr horse by means of pop rushing in Bokhara?
Paddy says:
hmmmm
Ljube says:
its' a decision for the next turn anyway
Paddy says:
would we pop rush this turn, or wait till next when pop growth 1 turn away and thus guaranteed
Paddy says:
ok
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
for great thought
Ljube says:
I support pop-rushing
Paddy says:
another Horse certainly very very good
Ljube says:
yes
PLATO says:
next when it is 1 away.
Ljube says:
yes, that horse will be able to catch up with teh main force
Paddy says:
ok. I like it
Ljube says:
Good thinking Plato! We miss Rob very much and Chris who would be good at spotting this.
PLATO says:
hehe...slowly I am learning!
Paddy says:
we be Horde
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
ok where are we then
Ljube says:
OK, cities are done.
PLATO says:
so are we to add the additional horse, or use it to replace the horse from KBH and keep the settler?
Ljube says:
Now offers?
Ljube says:
add
Ljube says:
I like to add
PLATO says:
okay
Ljube says:
Ljube says:
the more the merrier
Paddy says:
indeed
PLATO says:
hehe
Paddy says:
trades as is - ie all waiting
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
movement.
Ljube says:
ok, movement
PLATO says:
should we contact babs about monarcy? or wait 2 turns?
Paddy says:
no, that all done
PLATO says:
okay
Paddy says:
I have cc'd you in on that
PLATO says:
yes...they talk good game...but I don't trust them. (am I being repetitively redundant? )
Paddy says:
neither do I
Paddy says:
yet they are weak to us
Ljube says:
hehe, I don't trust them either
Ljube says:
in some 30 turns we will smite them bad
Paddy says:
and very very week to our Horde AM alliance
PLATO says:
hehe
Ljube says:
we won't leave them alive
Paddy says:
if they attack us we will unleash HELL on them
Ljube says:
don't want scientific civs alive
Paddy says:
Russell the New York Telephone Gladiator is still an ANZAC
PLATO says:
I am not worried about attack as much as i am them withholding promised tech
Paddy says:
the tech is for AM and we will get it
Ljube says:
I care very little about monarchy
Paddy says:
Beta and company have promised it too many times
Paddy says:
and they owe
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
the last chat I had with them shows there acceptance clearly
Ljube says:
that's fine
Ljube says:
we need currency though
Paddy says:
we have that
Paddy says:
it is in the A-M vaults
Paddy says:
just quietly
Paddy says:
been there a few turns
Ljube says:
ah, great
Ljube says:
excellent
Paddy says:
will be there a few more
Ljube says:
!!!
Ljube says:
so it should
Ljube says:
Paddy says:
no use DR knowing A-M give us things
PLATO has left the conversation.
Ljube says:
indeed
PLATO has been added to the conversation.
Paddy says:
and Bards still working on construction
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
I want to make sure neither babs nor DR get construction
PLATO says:
how many turns to construction?
Ljube says:
out of fear they may get feud
Paddy says:
so our Blood cell has done great work for us in getting lots of techs, all the while we have the gold
Ljube says:
haha
Ljube says:
indeed
Paddy says:
9 turns to construction I believe
PLATO says:
hehe
Paddy says:
Babs will get it
Paddy says:
we can not stop that
Paddy says:
so we have to suck that up and move on
Ljube says:
will they share the bonus tech then?
Paddy says:
they will with Bards minimun, thus we get it
Ljube says:
I hate scientific civs
Paddy says:
it is a major point for the next TNA Summit
PLATO says:
how close is bard-bab relationship?
Paddy says:
I have been procrastinating on when to have the TNA Summit
Paddy says:
very close - Snoop and Beta are friends
Ljube says:
hehe, you causing delays
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
shall we move along
Ljube says:
OK
PLATO says:
k
Ljube says:
S&D 9
Paddy says:
sorry, Plato, you were writing something?
PLATO says:
not important now...will cover with you two later...bab-bard thoughts is all
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
S7D 9
done
Ljube says:
OK, now we need to protect our worker 6 from KBH from barb horse
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
I suggest we use both swords in KBH, just in case
Paddy says:
ahhh good
Ljube says:
will need up lux
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
we at 30%
Ljube says:
will need 40 %
Paddy says:
why
Ljube says:
I don't like to take chances
Paddy says:
worked at 30
Paddy says:
hmmm
PLATO says:
dyes hooked now though
Ljube says:
ah, right
Ljube says:
we'll have a unit next tuirn
Ljube says:
will it work as MP?
Paddy says:
ok, so both 6
Ljube says:
before teh calculation of unhapiness?
Ljube says:
never know these things
Ljube says:
perhaps plato can hgelp
Ljube says:
what get's calculated first
Ljube says:
I'd hate to see KBH rioting
PLATO says:
don't know for sure, but I believe units are before happiness calc aren't they?
Ljube says:
I think so myself
Ljube says:
paddy?
PLATO says:
good Rob question.
Ljube says:
yeah
Ljube says:
he would know
Paddy says:
indeed
Paddy says:
but not avail
Ljube says:
So, what do you think Paddy?
Paddy says:
hmmm
Paddy says:
why do you think it will riot?
Paddy says:
we only just put the units in there
Ljube says:
move those two units and see for yourself
Ljube says:
teh units out
Paddy says:
that is not an explanation
PLATO says:
with dyes and 30% it should be okay, don't you think?
Ljube says:
OK, we have 3 unhappy
Ljube says:
if we move 2 units out
Ljube says:
we'll have 5 unhappy
Ljube says:
sorry
Ljube says:
4 unhappy
Ljube says:
3 happy
Paddy says:
yet before the troops we had 4 unhappy
Ljube says:
one content
Paddy says:
so balanced
Paddy says:
with troops we got the one content
Ljube says:
if we leave one sword inside
Ljube says:
we have 4-4
Paddy says:
with no troops it was 4-4
PLATO says:
well...we can't add an entertainer and still get the horse unfortunately
Paddy says:
why would that have changed
Ljube says:
maybe it has not changed
Ljube says:
I'm not sure
Ljube says:
I always deal with these things using lux slider
Paddy says:
for many turns it was 4-4 with no troops
Ljube says:
never think too much about it
Paddy says:
ok, we move both
Ljube says:
ok
PLATO says:
I agree
Paddy says:
both 6
Paddy says:
yes?
PLATO says:
yes
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
done
Paddy says:
bugger
Paddy says:
ok, I do not understand this
PLATO says:
yes went 3-4
Paddy says:
Paddy says:
very sad
Paddy says:
my costs
Paddy says:
up lux
Ljube says:
if the unit comes before happiness determination it's ok
Ljube says:
I'll check and old chat with rob
Ljube says:
he told me about it
Paddy says:
lux to 40% to be sure
Ljube says:
ok
PLATO says:
yes...wonder why that happened that way?
Ljube says:
2 units two citizens content
Ljube says:
Rob knows all about it
Ljube says:
I don't have a clue
Paddy says:
ok
PLATO says:
hehe...me neithier
Paddy says:
well workers safer
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
I don't like risks
Ljube says:
ok, now taskforce bloodshaft
Ljube says:
they are in bloodview
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
9-6
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
OK, now stormhoof
Paddy says:
ok
Ljube says:
6-6-9 fort
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
shall we kylle that barb?
Paddy says:
yes please
Ljube says:
We have Bongolian Red Guard
Ljube says:
Let them do it
Ljube says:
maybe they get elite
Ljube says:
if lucky
Paddy says:
cool
PLATO says:
that would be nice
Paddy says:
9 attack then
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
then 3
Paddy says:
killed barb, no loss, no promotion
Ljube says:
ok
PLATO says:
k
Ljube says:
faithfuls
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
6-6-6
Ljube says:
then, maybe 2
Ljube says:
and stay there to scout for DR road near sidon next turn
Ljube says:
what do you think?
Paddy says:
hmmm
Paddy says:
Plato?
PLATO says:
hmmm...would be good to have some eyes there
Paddy says:
ok
Ljube says:
yes, but 2 and then stay there (that's 1 from Nirvana)
Paddy says:
yes it is
Ljube says:
or, hmm
Ljube says:
maybe move back
Ljube says:
8
Ljube says:
because, we don't want to be spotted by DR
Paddy says:
that is right
Ljube says:
and from teh position 7 of Nirvana we can still investigate
Paddy says:
we can move up next turn look and go back etc
Paddy says:
yes
PLATO says:
that sounds good
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
we will be blocking the way fro bards for one turn. Hope they won't mind
Ljube says:
Ljube says:
Other units at 8-9 from metallica - fort
Paddy says:
hmmm
PLATO says:
their main force has moved out already. it should be minor if it bothers them at all
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
they have roads either side
Ljube says:
we can tell them it's to scout for roads near sidon
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
good
Ljube says:
Bloodseeker 6
Ljube says:
Engiana 6-9-6-6
Ljube says:
Black Lightning 9-6-6-6-9-6
Ljube says:
all meet with taskforce bloodshaft
Paddy says:
1 mo
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
Soothsayer's Savages fort in Bokhara.
Paddy says:
wait or fort?
Paddy says:
why fort
Ljube says:
same
Ljube says:
wait
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
Bloodletter and bataar, where to?
Ljube says:
three mounatins
Ljube says:
I think 2
Ljube says:
what say you?
Paddy says:
yes, around the back ridge
Ljube says:
ok, 2 then
Ljube says:
I'd love to see Venture empty
Ljube says:
It will burn if empty
Paddy says:
done
Paddy says:
indeed
Ljube says:
Ljube says:
bab sinclair
Ljube says:
spotted
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
Banshees, 3-3?
Paddy says:
will do them good that we could have such patrols out
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
banshees yes
Ljube says:
Long eyes?
Paddy says:
6,8?
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
up the mountain
Paddy says:
Plato?
Ljube says:
yes
PLATO says:
yes
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
Bob?
Ljube says:
irrigate wheat?
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
best
PLATO says:
yes
Ljube says:
or road 7-7-7 from KBH?
Ljube says:
yes, irrigate
PLATO says:
wheat
Paddy says:
irrigate will finish for Bloodhue growth
Ljube says:
yes
PLATO says:
yes
Ljube says:
that's it
Paddy says:
done
PLATO says:
very good turn.
Paddy says:
thank you - awesome
Ljube says:
great turn
Paddy says:
so shall we get back to Babs
Paddy says:
I will finsh the report and send the save
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
just in from Aqua:
Still no battle reports from anyone. apart from Desolator Dave's murder (and hence not a battle!), the last battle report was in 1750BC.
Hmmm.....All Quiet on the Western Front? Or the Calm Before the Storm? I wonder!
PLATO says:
The babs. By themselves they are not a concern. It is the alliances that they may make that could cause problems
PLATO says:
haha...took him long enough!
Paddy says:
he has been emailing me since we got the save: Play the turn man...
Ljube says:
hahaha
Paddy says:
hehehe, also just texted me
Ljube says:
Who will ally with them?
Ljube says:
With the babs
PLATO says:
3 possibilities...DR, LB, and even the bards
Ljube says:
DR unlikely and not a very useful alliance
Ljube says:
DR are on teh defensive
Ljube says:
LB, well, babs need to expand somewhere
PLATO says:
are they? If they have a two front war they are. If one front wa removed then they could take the offensive pretty quick
Ljube says:
DR will be long gone
Ljube says:
by the time babs decide to form allainces
Ljube says:
do they have their golden age?
Ljube says:
DR?
PLATO says:
You are probably correct, but consider. DR has largest population right now and can po immortals very quickly
Ljube says:
hmm, really? largest pop?
PLATO says:
Do not discount the possibility that the alliances may already be formed
Paddy says:
indeed
PLATO says:
yes. look at victory conditions screen
Paddy says:
and LB are very quiet
Ljube says:
LB buildin a colossus
PLATO says:
not saying these are the cases...just that we should consider them
Ljube says:
I wonder
Ljube says:
if they truly want colossus
Ljube says:
not a bad wonder, but in this world, well
Ljube says:
...
PLATO says:
hehe...indeed
Ljube says:
If the allainces are formed, they are by no means backed with some weapons
Ljube says:
only aqua and bards average
Ljube says:
the rest weak
PLATO says:
The biggest problem that we have, imo, is that we will have the bulk of our forces on the other side of the world
PLATO says:
if we remove our strike forces then we may be weak compared to what could arrive on our doorstep
PLATO says:
just playing devil's advocate, btw...
Ljube says:
hmm, but from where wil that come?
Ljube says:
only a betrayal by bards would hurt us
Paddy says:
and they have no units for that
PLATO says:
the bards won't do that yet, but must at some point to be able to claim a victory
PLATO says:
I can see that as a possibility when we begin the bab campaign
Ljube says:
this means that the existence of the DR goes to our advantage
PLATO says:
yes. It is my thought that after sidon and antioch that we should disengage DR and wheel on babylon. Bards should be able to handle DR from that point and it will keep them busy
Ljube says:
fully agree
Paddy says:
hmmm
PLATO says:
A-M should strike simultaneously with us from the east
Paddy says:
they will
Ljube says:
Hmm, GNP second
PLATO says:
the road to The Furnace should be done by that point as well
Ljube says:
yes, we need more workers
Paddy says:
hehehe
Paddy says:
Ljube asking for workers - amazing
Ljube says:
bloodview should build those workers to ease the happiness problem that will come from pop rushing
Ljube says:
hehe, workers needed sometimes
PLATO says:
yes...that one is almost worth being sig material! haha
Ljube says:
Paddy says:
hehehe
PLATO says:
LB will be the question mark. I need to get busy on 1889.
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
yes, he is very strange
PLATO says:
I think a good time to propose non-agression would be after the fall of Sidion. What do ya'll think?
Ljube says:
to whom?
Ljube says:
non-aggression?
Paddy says:
wel we may attack him soon
PLATO says:
LB
Ljube says:
we may kylle his Venture
PLATO says:
LB? Why?
Ljube says:
teach him to not undertake ventures like that
PLATO says:
hehe. not sure that is best idea if we are to launch bab campaign with force that is in DR
Ljube says:
yes, best idea, those forces must move through LB land
Ljube says:
on the way to babs
PLATO says:
exactly. Hmmm....wonder if an embassy (for intel) and the ROP might be good ideas????
Paddy says:
ok, re forces for Babs... much will need to be looked at on what we take etc
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
LB might just crack and accept to be our vassal after teh fall of venture
Paddy says:
probably not
Ljube says:
1889 seems to be pure and simple builder
Paddy says:
but I do expect them to play harder once attacked
Ljube says:
ah
PLATO says:
I don't really like the idea of war with them now. Convince me.
Paddy says:
mainly just a pissing off action
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
would be best if babs could be persuaded to do teh dirty work for us
Paddy says:
hehe
PLATO says:
why piss of someone who is not part of the near and mid term war strategy?
Paddy says:
Babs will not I bet
Ljube says:
what if we told them venture empty, waiting for their horses
Ljube says:
liberators
PLATO says:
babs persuaded? hehe. It is hard enough to get them to anything 1 on 1 let alone 3rd party.
PLATO says:
Also, doesn't an empty Venture bring rise to the question of where LB's troops are?
Ljube says:
they don't exist
Ljube says:
PLATO says:
hmmm...
PLATO says:
an embassy would cost 42 gold
Ljube says:
yes, but wouldn't be wise
Ljube says:
we don't want our relations with the AM revealed
Ljube says:
at least not yet
PLATO says:
ahhh...good point
Ljube says:
that's why we send friendly scouts
Paddy says:
Bards know of AM rop
Ljube says:
a vet sword and elite warrior
Ljube says:
yes, they know
Ljube says:
and asked questions
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
which paddy dodged
PLATO says:
quite nicely too!
Paddy says:
best to keep that to us afterall
Ljube says:
I regret we don't have more units
Ljube says:
venture and who knows what else would fall, I feel it
Paddy says:
LB is a pack of cards built on sand
PLATO says:
Well...Venture would make a good local from which to launch the western front
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
personally I would like to raze the lot and take the slaves
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
good thinking
Ljube says:
I love slaves
PLATO says:
hehe...solves that worker problem!
Ljube says:
let's raze them
Paddy says:
with a good slave force, we get our workers into city populations and work the free slaves etc
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
venture has absolutely no shields
Ljube says:
which means it's virtually empty
Ljube says:
unless they brought units all the way from Transylavania
Ljube says:
which I doubt
Paddy says:
Lads, I am taking Rebecca to get some lunch
I may be back in 30 mins, may not
please keep chatting
some great stuff here
and the Horde needs to get these matters discussed
thank you both for a grfeat turn
and I look forward to talking with you both soon
Ljube says:
We will make a poll about Venture?
Paddy says:
why?
Paddy says:
hehehe
PLATO says:
see ya Paddy. You and Bec enjoy lunch!
Paddy says:
thanks
Ljube says:
see you paddy
Paddy says:
just tell aqua we have 4 new polls
Paddy says:
then email him later of another
Ljube says:
I'll go to bed.
Ljube says:
hahaha
Ljube says:
Paddy says:
bye
PLATO says:
hahaha...go get him Ljube!!
Ljube says:
ok, but whan I wake up
Ljube says:
too tired to think now
Ljube says:
PLATO says:
okay my friend. Sleep well. Let's talk again soon.
Ljube says:
see you
PLATO says:
bye
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