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I love those units.

This looks like it will be quite a battle to play

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Sarsstock, you've excelled in the graphics department in the last few months. That shading technique screams Metal Slug. Great work.

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Why thank you Harry, I appreciate the compliment. I suppose it just comes down to practice makes perfect, along with the fact that Steph provided us all with the initial designs for the new infantry styles.

Speaking of which, I'd still love to make up the units Steph however I've been having trouble figuring out exactly which regiments exactly are going to be representing which Corps and Division, the exact regiment I mean. Once I straighten that out it will be no problem at all getting the rest of the units done.

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You deserve it Sarsstock. Steph's base was already pretty damn nice to begin with, but the extra bit really helps bring out the color.

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Chaps,

attached is the current infantry unit preview - if you, Chris, would be so kind to furnish me with some more units I´d be eternally grateful

I would need infantry chaps resembling - more or less - these uniform styles:

I Corps, 3rd Division - Pennsylvania Infantry
II Corps, 1st Division - New York Infantry
II Corps, 2st Division - Massachusetts Infantry
II Corps, 3rd Division - New York Infantry
III Corps, 1st Division - Pennsylvania Infantry
III Corps, 2nd Division - New Jersey Infantry
V Corps, 1st Division - Massachusetts Infantry
V Corps, 2nd Division - Union Regular Infantry
V Corps, 3rd Division - Pennsylvania Reserves
VI Corps, 1st Division - New Jersey Infantry
VI Corps, 2nd Division - Vermont Infantry
VI Corps, 3rd Division - Pennsylvania Infantry
XI Corps, 1st Division - Ohio Infantry
XI Corps, 2nd Division - New York Infantry
XI Corps, 3rd Division - New York Infantry
XII Corps, 1st Division - New York Infantry
XII Corps, 2nd Division - New York Infantry

I´d also need some Union & Confederate Shaprshooters ...

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These grizzled men look awesome, but I would make a few variations
on those backpacks and maybe drop the gaiters from the trooper's ankles...

As I think fairline pointed out, jackboots and long breeches were the order of the day in the 1860s...

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Steph: I most certainly would love to help out. My question however is this, do you know exactly what regiments were in which Corps and Divisions? For example in the case of the "XII Corps, 2nd Division - New York Infantry" which exact regiment should I use? There were many New York regiments to choose from in this case and I want to be sure I get the correct one.

Curt: I will amend the backpacks and the infantrymen's trousers appropriately.

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Also Steph I took a crack at a new style for infantry holding they're rifles upright and at an angle. I used the 17th and the 1st Virginia as an example.

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The Gettysburg game has all the units listed by number and regiment, as well as their commanding officers.

Just load up the historical scenarios and take notes.

For example, Meredith's brigade consisted of;

2 Wisconsin
6 Wisconsin
7 Wisconsin
24 Michigan
19 Indiana

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Man, it almost makes me wish I'd bought Sid Meir's Gettysburg when I saw it on the used shelve a year or so ago. In any case Steph using that link you provided to the units that participated in the Battle of Gettysburg it shouldn't be that hard to come up with those units you requested.

Just out of curiosity Steph, how many turns will this scenario last?

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@ Chris: Stunning as always

About the timeframe, well, I guess hours or even 30 minute intervalls would do just fine. Any comments?

@ Exile: Well, I started to use those game infos for a starter - together with OOBs - but then I decided to go for units at divisional distinction; there is not too much use to have a unit for each brigade I think

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There is a board wargame called Terrible Swift Sword, old SPI on a game system called Great Battles of the American Civil War by James Dunnigan. They used 20 - 30 minute turns and seemed to work very well sir. Same unit scale you are using, regiment level.

How will you simulate ranged artillery? Just curios unless you want that to be a mystery

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Technologies (= reinforcements) shall be given via events, these "cities" won´t be able to actually build anything you could possibly use - this is, after all, a three-days battle.


Ah - great idea, thats how you do it. This is looking COOL



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You really should dude, great game sytem, I have Antietam and Napoleon at Waterloo as well. If you like tactics these are the best I know of for this time period. Playing with 8 people is a trip online at the same time.

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Well if I should ever see it again beingofone I will definatley pick up a copy. In any case, I have here the first half of your order for the Army of the Potomac Steph. I used my own discresion in decinding which regiment represented the state you designated for each division, but I tried to base my decision on numerical representation on the battlefield when possible. I tried to use a mix of the two rifle positions, upright and straight ahead as you requested as well.

If you have any questions or comments on the units feel free to let me have them and I'd be glad to accomidate ya! If these are to your liking then expect the second half of the order in the next couple of days.

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Chris, that´s wonderful, thank you so much

I shall soon post some more information here

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Some more information wanted ...

* How big was the part of the cavalry in that battle? Do I really need to represent it?

* Attached is the current units file - anyone got a decent Horse Artillery unit gfx?

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Here is the second half of your order Steph. As before, if you have any questions or comments at all feel free to let me know.

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Oh great, thanks a lot, Chris Now I shall go back to fit them in

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Oh, I would need some more units - just to spice up the game - and to enable you to kill your enemy's officers:

Robert E. Lee
James Longstreet
Richard S. Ewell
Ambrose P. Hill

George G. Meade
John F. Reynolds
Winfield S. Hancock
Daniel E. Sickles
George Sykes
John Sedgwick
Oliver O. Howard
Henry W. Slocum

Anyone up to them?

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Steph, I don't know how realistic the game was, but the only thing the Cavalry did was getting fast to the battle, then every man jumped of the horse and shot at the enemy. You might need someone to confirm is this is true or just in the game though.

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* How big was the part of the cavalry in that battle? Do I really need to represent it?


The morning of the first day Bufords cav division skirmished with Heth`s division for well over two hours to deny the pike.

No major cav engagement on the second day.

Stuart tried to flank the Federal army on the third day and there was an almost exclusive cav engagement to the East, I think it might be off your map but the size of the forces were substantial. IICR each side had about 5 - 7 thousand.

Also one of the very few cav charges was on the third day by Kilpatrick.

And yup the cav almost always except Kilpatrick at Gettysburg, dismounted.

Hope this helps

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Well, this is something I´d call some start, thanks gentlemen.

I have read about the dismounted riders - or shall I say Dragoons? - and that cavalry engangement off that map. Maybe adding a second map with that skirmish would do the trick?

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I'll take a crack at the commanding officer's Steph, but in the mean time I cooked up this little alternate New Jersian to the VI Corps, 1st Division graphic I had earlier provided. I'm not all that happy with how the 3rd New Jersey turned out in that case, if you agree then maybe this solider from the 1st New Jersey would make a good substitution.

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Thanks a lot, Chris, for both - the trooper from New Jersey & that you´re going to crack down on those officers

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Okay, this is my attempt at the Confederate Generals. I simply modified Gareth's classic southern commander unit from "How Few Remain" for a bit of added height and a more detailed long coat. Also, as you can see I was torn between which pose to provide you with, so for each general I provided four different poses. They include capes, horses and all.

I imagined the sword however would be a good consistant theme for all the poses, wouldn't you agree that the sword would be most fitting for a true Southron like these four?

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*Edit*

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That´s just great, Chris! Exactly what I was looking for

@ all: Any more coments about that cavalry engagement a few miles off Gettysburg?

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Well I'm affraid I can't offer anything in regards to the cavalry contribution to the fighting Steph, however I can offer the first four Union Generals you requested. Once again I used Gareth's units as a base, they were then modified for height, a pistol in place of a sword and of course the cold weather cape.

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Outstanding units

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Extremely fine officers!

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Why thank you Curt, though I have to admit I "borrowed" the cape graphics off the units in your Bitterfronst ToT unitset. To be honest I think its what makes the units look all the more commanding. Come to think about it.... what ever happened to capes? I say its high time we bring back the cape!!!

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