Apolyton Archive  |  Preserved copy of the Apolyton Civilization Site and its forums as they stood in September 2005. Read-only; nothing here can be posted to or replied to.  |  Forum index |  About this archive |  The 1998–2001 UBB forums
Today on Apolyton WARDELL INTERVIEW PROMO A.C.S. HISTORY CHAPTER 4 GET CIV4 /w FREE PLUS! A.C.S. PHOTO GALLERY GET A.O.M. V1.1
Apolyton Civilization Forums
main| civ2| civ3| civ4| smac| ctp2| ron| moo3| galciv| galciv2| alt| about|
ApolytonPLUS | register | search | faq | new posts | pm (-/-) | upload | members
hall of fame new! | civgroups | civgroups news | interviews | the column | radio | chat | directory | news | store | PLUS
Apolyton Civilization Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.0.3 Apolyton Civilization Forums > Miscellaneous > Off-Topic > Robert Byrd is a horrible human being, version III
Show a Printable Version | Email This Page to Someone! | Receive updates to this thread | Report this to Apolyton news!
20.Sep: FOURTH CHAPTER IN `HISTORY OF...` PUBLISHED
13.Sep: NEWS ON THE FLY
06.Sep: APOLYTON DONATES TO HURRICANE RELIEF

bottom of page
   - CIVILIZATION 3 $9.99 - CIVILIZATION 2 from $6.95 - CIVILIZATION 2 from $4.25 - ALPHA CENTAURI + ALIEN CROSSFIRE (laptop collection) from $19.99 - ALPHA CENTAURI PC $9.99 -->
Author
Thread   
Pages (4): [ 1   2   3   4   ]
< Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
lord of the mark is offline lord of the mark
Emperor
FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:21
  Old Post 20-05-2005 23:12
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#91 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

quote:
Originally posted by GePap



Not so radical, if you see it used on corporate sponsored TV shows. (like in Queer Eye)



i see no contradiction here - or rather, its a contradiction thats basic to capitalism ("The Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism", Daniel Bell) Capitalism will make use of anything that sells product, even if this involves the spreading of radicalism.

mrmitchell is offline mrmitchell
King

Donate to the Red Cross

Sep 2002
time: 23:21
  Old Post 21-05-2005 02:35
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#92 Report this post to a moderator
Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote:
Jag, Democrat racists are not racists if one uses their definition of racism: a racist is anyone other than a Democrat, as only Democrats are not racist, even if they were the party of slavery, Indian killers, Jim Crow and the party that continues to do everything possible to maintain separate white (private) schools in the cities.

How's the weather in the Nedaverse?

Berzerker is offline Berzerker
Emperor
topeka, kansas,USA
May 1999
time: 23:21
  Old Post 21-05-2005 03:21
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#93 Report this post to a moderator
Increase Your PM Length

quote:
Eh, Chris Rock doing comedy is very different context from Robert Byrd on TV.


Not when both are using a term to describe behavior. You think that just because Chris Rock got a laugh with his observation he wasn't making a distinction between black people and niggers? Of course he was, and so was Byrd - both used "nigger" within the context of behavior. If whites can be "niggers" as Byrd argues, then race is not the relevant context.

quote:
One is used in a humorous context, the other is not. There's no analogy.


So what if it was funny? That doesn't change the fact Rock made a distinction between black people and niggers based soley on behavior. Byrd also made a distinction based on behavior.

quote:
Chris Rock and Robert Byrd have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Chris Rock is a young Black comic who uses edgy material about race in a comedy routine.


About his own race? Nope, a "nigger" to Rock is a black person who behaves badly - without the bad behavior Rock sees no nigger. To Byrd, a "white nigger" is a white person who behaves badly. One is funny, the other is a racist? Chris may have got laughs about his comment, but he didn't just invent a total falsehood. People understand what he means, but political partisans wont afford Byrd the same acknowledgement and then they accuse people of being partisan? I dont like Byrd or the Dems, that doesn't mean I should suspend the thinking process to come up with this "proof" of Byrd's racism.

Ned is offline Ned
Prince
of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:21
  Old Post 21-05-2005 03:40
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#94 Report this post to a moderator
Remove this text

quote:
Originally posted by mrmitchell

How's the weather in the Nedaverse?


It is interesting that Democrats can be flagrantly racist and no one calls them on it.

But, they are quick to point the finger of blame at even the slightest miscue by a Republican.

The Dems are the party of racism, pure and simple. They have not changed. But its it interesting how their use of smears keeps their blacks loyal.

GePap is offline GePap
King
of the Big Apple
Nov 2001
time: 23:21
  Old Post 21-05-2005 07:38
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#95 Report this post to a moderator
Tired of ads?

quote:
Originally posted by lord of the mark
i see no contradiction here - or rather, its a contradiction thats basic to capitalism ("The Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism", Daniel Bell) Capitalism will make use of anything that sells product, even if this involves the spreading of radicalism.


What "radicalism" does corporate America spread??

The second anything is taken over by corporate America, it may remain shocking, but is no longer trully radical.

Just look at Gangster Rap. Its a long line of pimps, hos, and bling, but utterly empty of any further political implication.

 
Pages (4): [ 1   2   3   4   ]
< Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:21.
Apolyton Time is 00:21.
    top of page
Rate This Thread:
Forum Jump:
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 




Contact Us - Apolyton Civilization Site - Support Us!

Building a better Apolyton through better information. Click here and take our poll!
Non-US visitors, click here!

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.0.3
Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Page generated in 0.0408 seconds (87.26% PHP - 12.74% MySQL) with 30 queries
Page Loading Time:

Support Apolyton: Amazon USA | Amazon UK | Amazon DE | Amazon FR |
Support Apolyton and get FREE PLUS, Buy from Chips&Bits: Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition | Call to Power 2 | Civilization: The Boardgame | GURPS/ Alpha Centauri | Alpha Centauri | Civilization IV | Civilization III: Complete |


Front Page | Civilization IV | Civilization III | Civilization II | Call to Power II | Alpha Centauri | Master of Orion III
Rise of Nations | Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations II | Misc
Alt.Civs | Civ I | C:CtP I | About | News | Directory | Apolyton Store | Forums | Chat | Columns | Interviews | Newsletter
Scenario League | CSC | Clash of Civs | Spanish Site | CtP Maps | Cradle of Civ | WesW's Ctp1/2 Site | Civ3 Haven

apolyton.net | apolyton.com | civilization2.net | civilization3.net | civilization4.net | civilizationiv.info | calltopower.net | galciv.net | galciv2.net | moo3.net