23-05-2005 15:08									#1
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I don't know if this has been discussed before.

Why isn't destroying colony pods an atrocity? Of course, I have only used it against the aliens, whose bases will drop to pop 1 with colony pods running off in random directions.

Still, this is pretty bad.

	23-05-2005 15:51									#2
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Because only the aliens drop to size 1 and spam pods on capture. Human bases just lose 1 pop.

	23-05-2005 16:19									#3
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I love the alien colony pods. They look like extravagant ottomans or Rococo footrests.

	23-05-2005 17:31									#4
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I've often wondered why attacking bases with mind worms isn't an atrocity. And also why the bases don't suffer population loss as the worms EET DAH BRAINZ of the inhabitants.

	24-05-2005 00:25									#5
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Whuh? The colonists on the colony pod are armed with basic handweapons, therefore it shouldn't be an atrocity. I blow up pods as soon as I detect them. Doesn't matter if its alien or human, better to destroy the pod as soon as possible lest they establish a base that could become a bigger nuisance later.

	24-05-2005 00:47									#6
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Heh, not an atrocity. Its only 1000 people.

	24-05-2005 01:49									#7
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1 death is a tragedy, 1000 is a stat

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I'm the one to deny people rights not you !

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quote: Originally posted by Lazerus 1 death is a tragedy, 1000 is a stat

A zero more ore less, who cares, but aren't it 10.000 ?

	24-05-2005 03:59									#11
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What the original quote ? no it's 1million. As for the colony pods, your guess is as good as anybodies really.

Although if i remember right when you obliterate a base it says doesn't it ?

	24-05-2005 04:17									#12
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It starts as a Civ2 mission to Alpha Centauri, which would have 10k-40k people. The pods that make it to the surface are survivors of the sabotaged mission, 1000 each.

	24-05-2005 05:28									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Lazerus What the original quote ? no it's 1million. As for the colony pods, your guess is as good as anybodies really. Although if i remember right when you obliterate a base it says doesn't it ?

Yep. Obliterating a base of size 1 says killing 10.000 and since a CP reduces pop by one, then it would be a prudent guess that those 10.000 are in the CP - I'm not sure that I want to know what happened to the other 9000 if a CP only caries 1.000

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War is hell as they say

	24-05-2005 14:26									#15
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What's even more fun is Planet Bustering a colony pod that's in the middle of transit between two or more enemy bases.

But then THAT is an atrocity....unless you repeal the charter like I like to do.

	24-05-2005 14:52									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan Whuh? The colonists on the colony pod are armed with basic handweapons, therefore it shouldn't be an atrocity.

Still, they are just civilians and you kill them in cold blood

	24-05-2005 14:54									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Frankychan What's even more fun is Planet Bustering a colony pod that's in the middle of transit between two or more enemy bases.

three pop 16 bases in one strike...

	24-05-2005 19:56									#18
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If they're armed, they aren't civilians. The others are collateral damage.

	24-05-2005 20:14									#19
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I see destroying the alien CPs as a nice bonus.

Destroying the CPs often leads to a handy morale boost for the low morale drop unit that just took the base.


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	25-05-2005 02:02									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Lazerus If they're armed, they aren't civilians. The others are collateral damage.

Exactly.

	25-05-2005 02:46									#21
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How far do you think any unarmed people get on a mindworm infested planet?

	25-05-2005 05:16									#22
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Yes, it's an act of mercy to give them the bullet!

	25-05-2005 10:01									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Senethro How far do you think any unarmed people get on a mindworm infested planet?

Not far, colony pods get decimated by mindworms if they encounter them.

	25-05-2005 19:32									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow The pods that make it to the surface are survivors of the sabotaged mission, 1000 each.

Correct. According to flavor.txt:

quote: extracted from flavor.txt #COLONY MODULE Complement: 1000+ Composition: Prefab plastic Hydroponics rating: indef. Armament: Sidearms only Armor: Passive (Applique)

(Notwithstanding if that colony pod founds a base, which you then obliterate, 10,000 citizens are put to death.!!)

	25-05-2005 22:11									#25
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9000 more move in during the year it is founded.

	26-05-2005 01:22									#26
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This got me thinking....

How much people are in a military unit? Or a probe unit for that matter?

Of course a probe unit won't have the same amount of people than a military unit...

	26-05-2005 01:31									#27
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Depends on the sort of unit.

I always go for:
- company strength for military land units.
- a single ship for naval units.
- an airwing for air units.
- a small team (two or so) for probes.

	26-05-2005 09:59									#28
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They should've stuck to 1000 for city sizes, too. But those numerical conflicts aren't such a big deal.

	29-05-2005 05:24									#29
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Each population represents 1,000 people...however, when you obliterate the base, it says 10,000 x current population...this is an error...

The number 1000 is also much more conceivable...considering the few resources on Planet, and much less on the ship, I don't see it possible that 70,000 new inhabitants could survive...

	29-05-2005 07:44									#30
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Well - when your size-1 base commissions its first terraformer, (f you're like me and invest that first row of minerals in a terraformer), you are immediately tying up over 1/3rd of that base's population if it's just 1000.

See:

quote: extracted from flavor,txt #TERRAFORMING UNIT Crew: 367 Composition: Bonded steel\ceramic Armament: Sidearms only Armor: Passive (Applique)