24-05-2005 00:14									#1
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Finally found one that does not have dozens of civs and/or a too huge map. The scenario requires a download of approximately 14 MB, which can be found on this site. It has some new units, mainly for flavour (slightly different planes, tanks, etc.—similar to the flavour units in the Napoleonic Conquest). The MP version came with bugs, but I fixed those (hopefully all of them...). Some countries are missing, and some have more territory incorporated due to the MP limit of 8 players.

This game is full. Now for real.
Tracker thread (link)

Civs to play with:

• Germany (Modo)
  
• Russia (Trollius IV)
  
• France (Masuro)
  
• Britain (Beta)
  
• Spain (Paddy)
  
• Ottomen (Joncnunn)
  
• Austria-Hungary (Shogun Gunner)
  
• Serbia-Romania-Greece (Ljube)

No alliances are fixed, so diplomacy will be very important in this game. The only victory conditions are Domination and Conquest.

Selling anything to the AI on the first turn is prohibited to prevent the known exploit (AI values things way too high on the first turn in scenarios.)

No Settlers can be built, so no razing cities, please.

Below you can see a map showing the borders at the beginning of the scenario.

Attachment: wwi map.jpg
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Last edited by Modo44 on 27-05-2005 at 21:11

	24-05-2005 00:31									#2
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I'd like to play Serbia or Germany.

	24-05-2005 00:37									#3
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Hey Modo, that map has one very serious error compared to historic WWI : Italy had already unified!!!

At the very least reunifiy Italy and give it to all to Spain since we can't have 9 countries. Italy reneged on it's alliance with the Central Powers at the beginning of the war and started netural and joined the allies later.

That bits of UK cultural influence in Turkey: NOPE!
Increase culture of the Turkish cities and decrease cultural influence of UK cities there to fix.

I would also consider spliting Protogual from Spain and giving that to the UK.

I'd recommend removing the city(s) in Swisterland entirely, maybe create a barb unit with a massive defense factor and no movement points and place such units there.

	24-05-2005 00:43									#4
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Jon, the idea is to have a fun game. I do not expect it to be historically correct, as it is simply impossible with the number of civs we can use in MP. Did you notice, for example, that there is like no Scandinavia?

And, more importantly, which civ would you like to play?

Ljube, you can only play one of them civs. You need to choose.

Last edited by Modo44 on 24-05-2005 at 00:54

	24-05-2005 01:06									#5
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Serbia

	24-05-2005 01:24									#6
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As you wish. Hope you can deal with the divided territory.

	24-05-2005 02:47									#7
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Scandinavia did indeed stay out of WW I completely, or at the very least played an insingificant role, so no cities there makes sense.

Hum, if there's no settlers allowed, Spain could also be emptied of cities with a wall of strong defensive barbs added, and Protogual handed over to the UK, that would then free up a player spot for Austria.

If you reunify Italy, I'd like Italy. But if not then Ottoman Empire.

quote: Originally posted by Modo44 Jon, the idea is to have a fun game. I do not expect it to be historically correct, as it is simply impossible with the number of civs we can use in MP. Did you notice, for example, that there is like no Scandinavia? And, more importantly, which civ would you like to play? Ljube, you can only play one of them civs. You need to choose.

	24-05-2005 02:53									#8
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Some alliance settings:

Serbia locked into an alliance with Russia.

Serbia (and Russia) has locked war with Austrian-Hungary.

Germany has locked war with UK

All other powers are free to choose sides.

	24-05-2005 02:58									#9
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I'd also sugest knocking Fascism out of the tech tree entirely, doesn't really belong as a WWI govt.

	24-05-2005 03:02									#10
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Unlike with the AI, locked wars do not do much for players, except prohibiting trade. Nobody can actually make me attack somebody, so there is little point trying to force it this way. Locked alliances, on the other hand, make diplomacy less relevant, by keeping military power together without requiring any effort from the players.

Frankly, I see no point setting those, except when dealing with AI. Remember the WWII game? No locked anything works just fine so far. I might use locked alliances/wars only if a player happens to play a civ historically allied with one controlled by the AI.

Welcome to the new leader of the Ottomen.

EDIT: Fascism is for those that start with governments that have War Weariness. I would say the same thing applies to Communism. With tech costs raised a bit (Emperor level), the choice whether to research Fascism becomes a part of strategy.

	24-05-2005 03:23									#11
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lock me in with whomever as a leader

i just wanna play so let me know if you dont mind me playing

Gramps

	24-05-2005 04:35									#12
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Britain, Russia, or Austria-Hungary. I am easy with all three, but wouldn't mind playing the Brits. Lord knows I played Avalon Hill's Jutland enough when I was younger.

	24-05-2005 04:51									#13
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on second thought if Lord Beta doesnt mind Grand Czar Trollius IV must rise again to Rule Russia, nyet?

	24-05-2005 11:46									#14
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Good. Five already.

I think all we need now is someone to play France. Paddy?

	24-05-2005 12:11									#15
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hehe, and here I was looking at playing Spain

Spain if available thanks

	24-05-2005 13:24									#16
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As you wish, Spain it is.

We are all set then. I will set up the game now, and a tracker thread is coming right up.

EDIT: Game started. The tracker thread is here.

Last edited by Modo44 on 24-05-2005 at 16:23

	25-05-2005 07:11									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll on second thought if Lord Beta doesnt mind Grand Czar Trollius IV must rise again to Rule Russia, nyet?

Lord Beta nods to Czar Trollius IV. All is good.

	27-05-2005 18:53									#18
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* Shogun Gunner is bummed that he missed this PBEM

	27-05-2005 19:06									#19
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email Modo....

we have not even done one round yet

	27-05-2005 19:16									#20
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oh, the game said locked....

	27-05-2005 19:20									#21
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Hehe, not one turn done (Missing one Troll. Has anybody seen him?), so you might as well be added. Open spots are Austria-Hungary, and France. This means no locked wars in the game... oh well...

	27-05-2005 19:20									#22
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did you email Modo?

	27-05-2005 19:30									#23
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well done Modo

welcome aboard Gunner

	27-05-2005 19:46									#24
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Oh, spit. I missed this one.

	27-05-2005 19:57									#25
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Actually, no, you did not. If you want to join, this is the last moment. We will be eight. This is crazy for game speed, but what the heck.

Masuro and Shogun Gunner, you need to choose the civs you want. The only two still available are France and Austria-Hungary.

You can thank the discussion in the soon-to-be tracker thread, and the recent absence of Grandpa Troll.

	27-05-2005 20:59									#26
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France, please

And thanks for letting me know about the opening.

	27-05-2005 21:12									#27
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Alright, France it is. I will start the game (for the third tim ) as soon as Shogun Gunner confirms he is in as Austria-Hungary.

	27-05-2005 21:48									#28
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All right, no AIs!

	27-05-2005 21:56									#29
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Sure Austria Hungary is cool. Thanks for letting me join.

	28-05-2005 01:35									#30
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I loaded save and this is what I got

Attachment: wwi error.jpg
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