28-05-2005 23:50									#31
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Still no . Maybe you'd spread Islam with the press or something .

	29-05-2005 00:21									#32
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More likely by force. Perhaps Nationalism is a better prerequisite.

	29-05-2005 01:10									#33
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Or being the first to Nuclear Power .

	29-05-2005 03:55									#34
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Nuke's aren't the best way to spread religion.

	29-05-2005 08:54									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Nuke's aren't the best way to spread religion.

I wonder if that's what the Iranians are thinking.

	30-05-2005 06:21									#36
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But the question remains : Do you chose wich town is gonna be the capital of your newly founded religion ?

	30-05-2005 09:14									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Niptium But the question remains : Do you chose wich town is gonna be the capital of your newly founded religion ?

I guess it is just the capital of your empire at the moment you "discover" that religion.

	30-05-2005 11:08									#38
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Or discovering a religion could give you a religious great leader dude who could found a holy city somewhere.

	30-05-2005 13:59									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Nuke's aren't the best way to spread religion.

Nukes are!
Nukes are the best way to wipe out all humans in a certain region. After that move in your own muslim folks.

Of course there'll be a problem with some waste and fall out etc. though most muslim leaders don't really care if some more or less of their fellow followers 'fall out' or not.

	30-05-2005 14:09									#40
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy Nukes are! Nukes are the best way to wipe out all humans in a certain region. After that move in your own muslim folks. Of course there'll be a problem with some waste and fall out etc. though most muslim leaders don't really care if some more or less of their fellow followers 'fall out' or not.

Let's not start trolling, please...

	30-05-2005 18:37									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Nuke's aren't the best way to spread religion.

Sure they are!

"Look! A nuke is coming!"

"Holy SH!T!!!"

	30-05-2005 19:46									#42
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True, true. They might not find your religion though

	31-05-2005 01:30									#43
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I hope, I really hope you get to chose wich city will become the Holy city of your newly founded religion or at least it's gonne get chosen randomly. I'd hate it if it was to be the capital by default.

	31-05-2005 01:55									#44
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IIUC, it will be the city it's discovered in, not neccessarily the capital. I guess that means like the random city in which science and arts and such fluourishes when philosophy is discovered.

	31-05-2005 23:48									#45
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perhaps the city whose beakers completed the tech cost and 'researched' the tech?

	31-05-2005 23:59									#46
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That's pretty arbitrary.

	01-06-2005 02:03									#47
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Well find out soon enough. When the game arrives!
Can someone give me $1,500 or so for a new computer? I don't think 1.3GHz withOUT an advanced graphics port slot is gonna hack it.

	01-06-2005 02:15									#48
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You don't need $1,500 for a new comp, $700 will get you a 64bit system.

Also, Jerusalem isn't the capital of Islam, it's Mecca. Claiming Jerusalem to be also be a holy city is a nice way of justifying land grabbing.

	01-06-2005 03:01									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Cataphract887 perhaps the city whose beakers completed the tech cost and 'researched' the tech?

Oooooo! I hope its this! If it is, perhaps that means that excess beakers will be applied to the next teck like they were in Civ I and II!!!

	01-06-2005 04:08									#50
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Yeah, I much preferred that way of doing it Donegeal

	01-06-2005 04:12									#51
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However, which city is chosen depends on in which order the game counts the cities contributions - so it could be very random.

	01-06-2005 04:30									#52
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True, true, but statistically the largest science contributor is most likely to give the tech...

	01-06-2005 04:32									#53
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But the statistics may be skewed by the way in which the cities are ordered, especially if you have a large number of cities and micromanage to make sure you overflow by as little as possible.

Better, IMO, to use the number of beakers the city produces/total beakers produced as the chance for the city to be the holy city.

	01-06-2005 06:11									#54
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Then your holy city will usually always be the same.

In all variations of Civ (I,II,III and CTP I/II), the order that beakers were applied (or gold/food/production for that matter) depended on the order that the cities you posses were founded.

With this in mind, you could concievably pick which city becomes the holy city if you meticulously MM and have a sufficent teck lead so that you don't have to worry about someone else getting the tech first.

	01-06-2005 06:24									#55
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy I wonder if in the (post) modern ages people will lose their religion....

Why? Even if they don't go to church, most people still believe in something. True atheists are still fairly rare. Atheism is a 1337 thing, after all.

	01-06-2005 16:52									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker But the statistics may be skewed by the way in which the cities are ordered, especially if you have a large number of cities and micromanage to make sure you overflow by as little as possible. Better, IMO, to use the number of beakers the city produces/total beakers produced as the chance for the city to be the holy city.

Perhaps there may be a better measure for selection...I think that using beaker production per city won't make a blind bit of difference. Perhaps factoring in both beaker production and culture production in your cities may be the best way to select a holy city...

	01-06-2005 19:35									#57
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In any ways. I think that even if Firaxis doesn't include this very feature (choosing the ciy or at least making it random), I'll be trying to learn python or XML editing just to create that event...

	02-06-2005 15:12									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker So would discovering Printing Press first make you the capital of Protestantism?

Why ?


The printing press was ably used by the Catholic powers, such as the Venetian Republic- the Aldus Manutius set up shop there in 1488, reprinting portable editions of the works of Classical antiquity.

The flourishing print shops of northern Italy fuelled the scientific revolution that went along with the artistic & cultural revolution of the Renaissance and the Baroque era.

	03-06-2005 01:52									#59
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Didn't the printing press make Bibles much more widely available and therefore more accessible to the common people, which helped cause the Protestant revolution?

	03-06-2005 01:55									#60
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Yes.