27-05-2005 12:39									#1
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Seems to be a giant game in the making...

Have you read anything about this game?

Carolus

	27-05-2005 12:50									#2
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No.

	27-05-2005 13:05									#3
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Yes. There was one thread about it some time ago.

	27-05-2005 13:38									#4
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It'll be rubbish.

	27-05-2005 13:51									#5
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike It'll be rubbish.

Pessimism

	27-05-2005 13:52									#6
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike It'll be rubbish.

Don't like the Sims, eh?

Carolus

	27-05-2005 14:02									#7
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Whatever gives you that idea?

	27-05-2005 14:12									#8
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Whatever gives you that idea?

it's unhealthy not to like the sims

	27-05-2005 14:34									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident it's unhealthy not to like the sims

Seems that Doc dissents, which I guess is a good thing, no?

Carolus

	27-05-2005 16:31									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex Have you read anything about this game?

About everything about the game

quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex Seems to be a giant game in the making...

Yep, but it does sound like it might end up being too huge for them to actually finish any of the parts in the game



I'm more interested in the game engine than the actual game though. If it actually works as they say it works the idea will hopefully get used in future games

	27-05-2005 17:01									#11
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I'm watching this game like a hawk.

I really want to see how well they pull this engine off.

I've played that 94kb game and was amazed that everything could fit inside such a small package.


Do you realise btw, that Spore could be the easiest game to download ever.

	27-05-2005 17:02									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio I'm more interested in the game engine than the actual game though. If it actually works as they say it works the idea will hopefully get used in future games

Now, if they did like Civ4, and decided to release some game logic source code together with the game, algorithms for creature generation and all, that'd be crazy.

	27-05-2005 17:21									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident it's unhealthy not to like the sims

Then I am clinically dead.

	27-05-2005 21:09									#14
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ive read some things about Spore. It looks like an interesting idea. I would be positive about the implementation - wright isnt Molyneaux, his ambitious ideas usually end up as either VERY important games (like Simcity) or at least very commercially successful and debatably important games (like the Sims) Id be real surprised if this were a total flop.

	27-05-2005 21:52									#15
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Black and White sucks as a game, but it still sold quite well AFAIK.

	28-05-2005 00:09									#16
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that's because of great reviews it got. I bought the game based off of great reviews.

	28-05-2005 01:47									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Black and White sucks as a game, but it still sold quite well AFAIK.

but not nearly as well as the Sims. I guess Im thinking financial success on that scale offsets gameplay dissappoint as far as measuring a flop, whereas modest success does not. Of course many liked the gameplay in the Sims.

	28-05-2005 01:57									#18
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Of course many liked the gameplay in the Sims.

Many are still addicted to it now.

Any way, I think that financial success is the only objective way of measuring a "flop". That you or I don't like the gameplay of a game doesn't matter one bit if millions of people are willing to buy it.

	28-05-2005 12:52									#19
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quote: Originally posted by vovan Many are still addicted to it now. Any way, I think that financial success is the only objective way of measuring a "flop". That you or I don't like the gameplay of a game doesn't matter one bit if millions of people are willing to buy it.

The masses are never wrong, eh? I think I can come up with a contradictory (non-game) example or two...

Carolus

	28-05-2005 15:01									#20
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Sounds a bit like SimEarth, or maybe Dinosaurs...interesting though.
There is also an official website btw

	28-05-2005 21:17									#21
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I think this looks like a very ambitions idea - if anyone will pull it off though, it will be Wright. The philosphy behind the game, that it generates its own models and its own animations and its own logic from very small amounts of code - well, that's fantastic. Say what you will about the Sims, its a very well written game, with enough depth and replayablity to keep literally hundreds of thousands of people addicted to it.

Doc, come off it. No one is impressed by snobbish attitudes towards games. Its ok to like a game even if its popular. Perhaps the game is popular because its good? I'd much rather see more sandbox games than yet another generic RTS or FPS game... or even another generic fantasy RPG

As for the impossiblity of Spore ever making it - the game seems to be 90% finished. According to demostrations the basic sections of the game all exist, and the transitions between them too. I guess the rest is just tweaking, content adding, interface issues and bug squashing.

-Jam

	28-05-2005 23:01									#22
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Wright is probably the best designer in the industry - yes, even better than Sid.

	29-05-2005 00:44									#23
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quote: Originally posted by vovan Many are still addicted to it now. Any way, I think that financial success is the only objective way of measuring a "flop". That you or I don't like the gameplay of a game doesn't matter one bit if millions of people are willing to buy it.

I was thinking more of the opposite - a game that was a commercial failure, but was profoundly influential on how games were designed, etc would still NOT be a "flop".

	29-05-2005 14:58									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex The masses are never wrong, eh?

Nope. Never wrong, as far as a business is concerned.

	29-05-2005 21:34									#25
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From ign:

quote: The completely awesome part about that is that all of the creatures that you encounter will be creatures that someone else designed on his computer. Spore isn't an online game, but it has some aspects of being one. Anybody who creates content in their version of Spore will have it automatically uploaded onto a master server (an optional feature) and then downloaded onto other computers running the game without ever having to worry about an interface, giving a near endless array of player created content. The system is even smart enough to fill out the ecosystem of the planet. So if there's some sort of niche creature missing from the system, the game will look through the database and pull down a player-created creature which fills that void.

	29-05-2005 22:59									#26
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WOW!

	30-05-2005 17:49									#27
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Cool, can you take over the universe?

	30-05-2005 18:20									#28
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Yes.

	31-05-2005 21:05									#29
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If youre building planetary civs, how could you NOT have the possibility of interstellar war? Though I suspect it would be more EUish war, not a detailed combat model.

	31-05-2005 23:34									#30
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Well until the Sims Nuclear War expansion that doesn't have proper war.