29-07-2005 16:01									#151
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Well, perhaps I can offer you something to compensate for your loss. Are you willing to consider a proposal?

I just saw your message after playing the turn, so, next time around I'll propose.

	29-07-2005 16:02									#152
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2390 bc to Paddy

	29-07-2005 16:27									#153
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	29-07-2005 16:53									#154
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Shogun, payment for maps would seem appropriate.

--> onwards

	29-07-2005 17:16									#155
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Looks like the Lord Shogun Gunner has left the building

	29-07-2005 18:45									#156
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quote: Originally posted by Andydog Shogun, payment for maps would seem appropriate. --> onwards

I can agree to that. Exactly what terms? I send you my world map for peace?

	29-07-2005 18:46									#157
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot Looks like the Lord Shogun Gunner has left the building

Yes, I'm not working at home today

	29-07-2005 19:09									#158
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quote: Originally posted by Shogun Gunner I can agree to that. Exactly what terms? I send you my world map for peace?

I meant Map Making - the tech I gave you for peace and as compensation for your settler. You accepted peace and the tech, and then immediately declared war again, killing my warrior and slaves.

Therefore if you wish for peace and to mend the badly tarnishd reputation of the Japanese, we would require payment for the secrets of Map Making.

	29-07-2005 19:15									#159
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I recognize that you put forward value to compensate me on the lost of my settler (NOT SLAVES) ;

I will make an offer to bring us back to peace and repair my tarnished reputation. You must recognize that I couldn't let the Celt ic unit take those innocent Japanese back to the Celt homeland to work as slaves for the remainder of their natural life. I had thought you executed them, which is why I agreed to peace with you. However, when I saw they were still alive, my advisors demanded action to free those innocent Japanese souls from Celtic chains.

I hope the world understands the Japanese position. We will make ammends for your lost -- we hope to come to some agreeable position.

Perhaps it's best to keep your troops on the other side of the Hittite empire to avoid any further misunderstandings during these negotiations.

	29-07-2005 19:18									#160
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hahaha

you have map making, and keep offering me wheel for construction -

	29-07-2005 19:24									#161
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All I get from you Paddy is a blank diplomacy screen. I was offering your the wheel to see if you were testing the waters or something.

The Celts will accept Construction from the Japs to put an end to this snafu.

	29-07-2005 19:34									#162
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I have offered you construction a few times, and all I got offered back was wheel

	29-07-2005 19:38									#163
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Well, I may be able to swing through with Construction to the Celts -- with some assurances of non-aggression for a timeframe TBD and agreed upon.

	29-07-2005 19:43									#164
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hahaha

	29-07-2005 19:52									#165
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If the Japs are prepared to accept peace for technology, then declare war again the very next turn, what meaning would a non-agression period have to them?

The deal will be peace for Construction. This is not open to negotiation and is there for this turn only.

If Japan does not like this deal then war shall continue and the Celts will provide a very generous offer to the Vikings and get Construction anyway.

It matters not to us how we get it.

	29-07-2005 20:01									#166
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ah...slick negotiating from the Celts. Remember, it was your warrior that initiated this hositility first. You attacked innocent, peaceful settlers. Japan will never forget that. It's a tragedy already penned into our history books. Continued war doesn't scare us, we just prefer peace.

I will consider our position. Construction is worth more than Map Making, but I'm still open to making a deal. I'm assuming there will be a save for me when I return home tonight to act upon.

Don't think that just because this negotiation is being conducted out in the open doesn't leave the possibility of Japanese-Viking cooperation to deny you this tech

	29-07-2005 20:09									#167
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deny him

deny him all

	29-07-2005 20:12									#168
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so much for a silent game!

	29-07-2005 20:50									#169
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this was a silent game?

too many PBEMs, I'm clearly confused.

	29-07-2005 21:52									#170
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it was mentioned when the game was being set up - we were only going to have in game diplo allowed - that was also the reason for our title of this game.

but its more fun with a bit of talk, so i'm easy either way.

	29-07-2005 22:03									#171
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quote: Originally posted by Shogun Gunner Remember, it was your warrior that initiated this hositility first. You attacked innocent, peaceful settlers. Japan will never forget that. It's a tragedy already penned into our history books.

The Celts would point that we attacked nobody. Your settlers were walking about with tools, not weapons. There were no weapons anywhere around in fact. And you now have your people back, safe and sound, totally unharmed.

quote: I will consider our position. Construction is worth more than Map Making, but I'm still open to making a deal.

The deal is there as it stands. Construction to our people would mean we have both suffered near equal losses, and we can put this behind us and move on. We look forward to receiving news of your final decision.

	29-07-2005 22:09									#172
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hahahaha

	29-07-2005 22:16									#173
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Well I'm an

Yes, there it is in the title of this thread. My apologies for violating the one of the fundamental aspects of this game. "Silence of the Dog-Scot-Gunner."

I guess we should return to silent after this incident is resolved.

To think...all this happened because of an errant Go-To command

	29-07-2005 22:29									#174
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quote: Originally posted by Shogun Gunner Well I'm an Yes, there it is in the title of this thread. My apologies for violating the one of the fundamental aspects of this game. "Silence of the Dog-Scot-Gunner." I guess we should return to silent after this incident is resolved. To think...all this happened because of an errant Go-To command

	30-07-2005 04:51									#175
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2350 bc to Paddy

	30-07-2005 04:58									#176
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DogScotShogun, to Andy, 2350 BC



Andy, wake up and play ya saves will ya

	30-07-2005 13:27									#177
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cripes what a racket. good morning to you too paddy.

save played and sent.

So are we definitely going back to silent? Just an idea - we could reverse that rule and stipulate all negotiations must be open - so no negotiations by email, all must be done openly on this board. Could make it interesting?

	30-07-2005 13:49									#178
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heheh open negotiations awesome idea

Shogun Gunner, wake up and play ya saves will ya

	30-07-2005 19:30									#179
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I woke up. I played the save

Paddy -- wake up and play!!!!!!!!!!

Fine. Since I ruined the silence, I can't really support the idea of continued silence

Open negotiations it is.

	30-07-2005 19:32									#180
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Lord Andydog, now that you have Construction - we have peace.

Lord Paddy, may we show you the way of the horse? Make us an offer.