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I'm just so sick of hearing about the violence in this world. It just makes you want to go out and kill people.


that was a joke btw.

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perhaps it was handy the 2 x 4 no one said this kid purposely sought out the board might have been that was what he saw first.

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I think we are really ingoring the white elephant in the room here guys.

2X4's are responsible for at least 2 out of 4 non worksite post factory timber related month. How long are we going to sit around and argue moot points until we come to the real conclusion thta we're all afraind of having to reach.

2X4's are a real threat, and pose a real threat to society as a whole. What we need to do is place a ban on wood that is so wide that it is easily grippable, and a ban on wood in legths that are both fallic and easily swung.

/sarcasm for thsoe of you without the sarcasmothalamus

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I dont think this kid went in search for a piece of wood to beat is baby sister. Unfortunatly it was what he found. I do believe had this kid fouind his plastic bat he would have used that too. Doesnt make him a hardcore killern just an aggrevated 7 yo that wanted his sister to stop hoggin his attention

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I was thinking that psychopathy is rather easy to diagnose, and with him being that young, it should be rather easier ( empathy develops at a younger stage, but he I don't think he's sophisticated enough just yet to hide this, though I could be wrong).

If he's a psychopath, then it's time to bring in the good ol' ball and chain, and make him build a new railroad to Canada. Or something.

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quote:
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Why was a seven year old left alone with an infant that young for that long?


Bingo.

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I reckon it's at least as likely that he saw his father beat up his mother and somehow thought that that made it ok..

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Completey new point of view: maybe he had a POINT.

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Diss's belief in the golden age is touching.

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Anyone: what is a 2x4?

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A large piece of wood.

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I watched violent cartoons when I was a child, played violent-themed games with friends, have played violent video console and computer games.

So glad I didn't turn into a psychopath.


Don't think your helping by taking yourself as an example here, mate.

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I was thinking that psychopathy is rather easy to diagnose, and with him being that young, it should be rather easier ( empathy develops at a younger stage, but he I don't think he's sophisticated enough just yet to hide this, though I could be wrong).

If he's a psychopath, then it's time to bring in the good ol' ball and chain, and make him build a new railroad to Canada. Or something.


I disagree. Empathy often doesn't develop until later in childhood. In fact the legal systems in many countries consider a seven year old to still be an "infant".
Babies often demonstrate a primitive sort of empathy. Their emotional state reflects that of their environment, i.e., when one baby in the nursery cries, they all join in. This state generally resolves sometime around the age at which they begin to walk and say a few words, at which time they develop an ego-centric view of the world. Go ahead, see how difficult it is to convince two year old Johnny that he should lie down for awhile because Mommy needs a nap. If you're really good at parenting and the kid's receptive you might be able to teach him at pre-school age to demonstrate manners and even to mimic compassion, but the development of the ability to see things from another person's perspective on his own doesn't really develop until about age 10 to 12.

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I reckon it's at least as likely that he saw his father beat up his mother and somehow thought that that made it ok..

This scernario is possible, however if you have kids you would know kids develop the skills to fight. I have 3 youngest being 8 and oldest being 14. The eight yo will protect himself if being aggrevaited by the older ones. Including kicking and swinging. He has even thrown things at the other 2 not processing the fact that he could hurt the older ones or break something. More likely then not this kid doesnt know what he has done. other then fight with his sister.

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Not exactly what I meant. i was more going on the unprovoked violence is allowed tour.

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Anyone: what is a 2x4?


piece of wood (usually in studs within interior walls). It's width and height is 2 inches by 4 inches (though it may actually be less than this). The length can vary.

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Does this mean that this smilie is inappropriate to use on this family-friendly site, as it would cause children to become psychopaths?

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yes (though I think you have to be 13 to post here)

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really? Then how is kuciwalker posting here?

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Well, how was SAMMYBOY posting here? Or dainbramaged or ProvostB for that matter?

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I'm only 12, and I have my suspicions about Lancer!

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Nah... he's 112.

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We really should have a max age on here too.

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As far as that one is concerned a max age would save most of our problems.

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We really should have a max age on here too.

Think that would prolly send most of us old folks to the polly retitrement home

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I think the min age should be (current age of Kuciwalker)+1.

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I think we are really ingoring the white elephant in the room here guys.

2X4's are responsible for at least 2 out of 4 non worksite post factory timber related month. How long are we going to sit around and argue moot points until we come to the real conclusion thta we're all afraind of having to reach.

2X4's are a real threat, and pose a real threat to society as a whole. What we need to do is place a ban on wood that is so wide that it is easily grippable, and a ban on wood in legths that are both fallic and easily swung.


quote:
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I blame the 2 by 4.

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I knew what life and death was back then. but I didn't actually know how to kill. this kid knew how to kill. How did this kid know to get a 2 X 4?


The Kids Next door. all of their adult defeating stuff is called 2 X 4 technologies.

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I disagree. Empathy often doesn't develop until later in childhood. In fact the legal systems in many countries consider a seven year old to still be an "infant".
Babies often demonstrate a primitive sort of empathy. Their emotional state reflects that of their environment, i.e., when one baby in the nursery cries, they all join in. This state generally resolves sometime around the age at which they begin to walk and say a few words, at which time they develop an ego-centric view of the world. Go ahead, see how difficult it is to convince two year old Johnny that he should lie down for awhile because Mommy needs a nap. If you're really good at parenting and the kid's receptive you might be able to teach him at pre-school age to demonstrate manners and even to mimic compassion, but the development of the ability to see things from another person's perspective on his own doesn't really develop until about age 10 to 12.


Honestly, this doesn't reflect my memories from my earlier childhood. and compassion isn't just about seeing things from another person's point of view, it's also about basically caring for how they feel. I think that kids have it at this age. This kid, otoh, didn't.

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Kids at this age dont really care how others feel they are self centered at this age. They are able to show love and compassion to a point but not to the point where an adut would really understand. The display of affection for them is given for rewards from a parent or caregiver.

 
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